Posted on 10/08/2016 4:32:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
Even “conservatives” vote when they can to raise minimum wages. They really think it means more money in their pocket.
35 cents an hour! Very good wages in 1920. The standard pay for a farm laborer was $1 a day, and not an 8 hour day.
That is what my father was paid for picking rocks out of fields.
Of course, a dollar was 1/20th of an ounce of gold back then, which would be $60 today!
There is no need for a minimum wage. Let the market decide.
The minimum wage argument is pure, stupid, AnCap mental masturbation.
No one who can’t get elected has a chance to make policy. The minimum wage, and raising it periodically, is overwhelmingly popular. Standing against it is political suicide.
Leave it alone.
Let’s make it illegal for low skilled people to work. Unless you are here illegally of course.
That doesn't work when the market can decide to import cheap labor from all over the world and to export jobs.
Amazing how many people think money is an unlimited resource and it’s ok to raise wages as long as somebody else pays it. We have a huge unemployment problem in America. It’s not just about wages but also about the amount of idle time individuals have, especially the young. Starter wages are a good thing as it brings the young into the market and hopefully teaches life skills. And don’t forget small business owners who frequently avoid paying themselves to ensure their staff is paid. Why do you want to punish or push them out of the market entirely?
That’s the message most miss about this.
Minimum wage makes it illegal for people to work if they can’t produce more than $X/hr of value.
Absolutely. We need to do just ONE thing to improve the economy: Apply more liberty.
Eliminating the minimum wage would be a good first step. It would bring millions of jobs flooding back in. But to make it work, we have to re-think things a lot. We have to separate what people REALLY NEED and what they merely want and create a situation in which low-wage workers can survive.
China and other countries can undercut us because their economies are SET UP to accommodate low-wages. They dont have all the regulations and building codes that make live so EXPENSIVE in the coddled, entitled Western world.
People in some parts of the world live on $1 or $2 per day, yet they dont starve. How do they do it? First, they dont feel entitled, so they dont expect as much. Second, they can and do get housing and food they can afford. That stuff doesnt meet modern Western standards, but guess what... they survive just fine.
Whats wrong with an outhouse if you cant afford a house with a septic tank? It works. But the almighty government wont let you have it. Want a car without airbags or nonsense emissions controls? Sorry, not allowed. Oh, and all your food need expensive government controls, too. So you need $15 an hour or more to live here.
Thats why job creators prefer to open up in places with a more business-friendly environment. We need to change all that and make the US competitive again.
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Some people are overly generous with other people’s money.
Meanwhile DUMBO is doing an end run around this do noting congress
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3477979/posts
Minimum wage is for teens who never had a job before. It is meant for teens (such as baggers, cashier) to learn about hard work and the value of money. It is not for raising a family of 4...
Anybody with no skills and/or no motivation shouldn’t have 4 kids.
We currently pay women with zero skills to have kids. It’s like pouring Miracle Grow on weeds.
According to the administration cost of living hasn't went up, but a few years back McDonald sold their breakfast sandwiches 2 for $2.00 they are now 2 for $4.00, some may not figure out that that is a 100% increase with no inflation.
The wage matters not, the cost is the thing.
It is unlimited, the value however is not.
Colorado will join other states in attempting to eliminate the scourge of unsightly fast food restaurants. It will be only partially successful in Colorado as it has been only partially successful in other states. Some fastfoods will close. Others will automate. There will be considerable success in eliminating those horrible low wage jobs, however, and that is a plus. Those fast food workers will all be enfolded in the welfare system to forever vote Democrat.
The house I stay in when I am there was about 200 sq ft in 2003 and would not have passed any American inspection. Thông now has a house that is close to 1800 ft. He added on and revised, doing the work himself with his wife and children, from time to time.
There are informal bribes that must be paid but that is so far less onerous than the official bribes we have to pay before we can stick a shovel in the ground and we had best not build it ourselves unless we get a contractor's license. In 2003 Thông's income worked out to about $40 a month. He is a hard worker and eft sharecropping when an opportunity came up to be a security guard at a beach resort nearby at which he made $110 and another 40-50 subbing on all his days off for other guys who wanted days off. At that level he was the economic equivalent of someone in NW Florida making perhaps $2500 a month and much is due to the fact that the government doesn't drain off so much of his income with requirements and codes. He has a nice house but it still would not pass any codes here. If a storm wrecks his roof he can afford to fix it much more easily than I could afford to fix mine.
True...a living wage of $15/hour, won’t be because a living wage will be more than $15/hour because EVERYTHING WILL INCREASE due to educated folks (who is now getting $15/hour) will charge $25/hour. Me, I charge $9/hour for mowing lawns and cleaning pools, I might up my prices to $13/hour, because of inflation.
If you do a good job I’ll pay you $15 an hour to do my lawn!
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