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The Immorality of the Minimum Wage
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2016 | Helen Raleigh

Posted on 10/08/2016 4:32:11 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/08/2016 4:32:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Even “conservatives” vote when they can to raise minimum wages. They really think it means more money in their pocket.


2 posted on 10/08/2016 4:35:35 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Pence, 2016)
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35 cents an hour! Very good wages in 1920. The standard pay for a farm laborer was $1 a day, and not an 8 hour day.

That is what my father was paid for picking rocks out of fields.

Of course, a dollar was 1/20th of an ounce of gold back then, which would be $60 today!


3 posted on 10/08/2016 4:42:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Kaslin

There is no need for a minimum wage. Let the market decide.


4 posted on 10/08/2016 4:43:22 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Kaslin

The minimum wage argument is pure, stupid, AnCap mental masturbation.

No one who can’t get elected has a chance to make policy. The minimum wage, and raising it periodically, is overwhelmingly popular. Standing against it is political suicide.

Leave it alone.


5 posted on 10/08/2016 4:55:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Rise)
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To: Kaslin

Let’s make it illegal for low skilled people to work. Unless you are here illegally of course.


6 posted on 10/08/2016 4:58:33 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: bgill
There's no need for a minimum wage. Let the market decide

That doesn't work when the market can decide to import cheap labor from all over the world and to export jobs.

7 posted on 10/08/2016 5:00:51 AM PDT by grania (I'm Deplorable)
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To: Kaslin

Amazing how many people think money is an unlimited resource and it’s ok to raise wages as long as somebody else pays it. We have a huge unemployment problem in America. It’s not just about wages but also about the amount of idle time individuals have, especially the young. Starter wages are a good thing as it brings the young into the market and hopefully teaches life skills. And don’t forget small business owners who frequently avoid paying themselves to ensure their staff is paid. Why do you want to punish or push them out of the market entirely?


8 posted on 10/08/2016 5:10:01 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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To: The Free Engineer

That’s the message most miss about this.

Minimum wage makes it illegal for people to work if they can’t produce more than $X/hr of value.


9 posted on 10/08/2016 5:24:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Kaslin

Absolutely. We need to do just ONE thing to improve the economy: Apply more liberty.

Eliminating the minimum wage would be a good first step. It would bring millions of jobs flooding back in. But to make it work, we have to re-think things a lot. We have to separate what people REALLY NEED and what they merely want and create a situation in which low-wage workers can survive.

China and other countries can undercut us because their economies are SET UP to accommodate low-wages. They don’t have all the regulations and building codes that make live so EXPENSIVE in the coddled, entitled Western world.

People in some parts of the world live on $1 or $2 per day, yet they don’t starve. How do they do it? First, they don’t feel entitled, so they don’t expect as much. Second, they can and do get housing and food they can afford. That stuff doesn’t meet “modern Western standards,” but guess what... they survive just fine.

What’s wrong with an outhouse if you can’t afford a house with a septic tank? It works. But the almighty government won’t let you have it. Want a car without airbags or nonsense emissions controls? Sorry, not allowed. Oh, and all your food need expensive government controls, too. So you “need” $15 an hour or more to live here.

That’s why job creators prefer to open up in places with a more business-friendly environment. We need to change all that and make the US competitive again.
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10 posted on 10/08/2016 5:38:50 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Kaslin

Some people are overly generous with other people’s money.


11 posted on 10/08/2016 6:15:48 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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Meanwhile DUMBO is doing an end run around this do noting congress

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3477979/posts


12 posted on 10/08/2016 6:26:41 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: Theodore R.

Minimum wage is for teens who never had a job before. It is meant for teens (such as baggers, cashier) to learn about hard work and the value of money. It is not for raising a family of 4...


13 posted on 10/08/2016 6:59:37 AM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The RELIGION of Pedophilia...)
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Anybody with no skills and/or no motivation shouldn’t have 4 kids.

We currently pay women with zero skills to have kids. It’s like pouring Miracle Grow on weeds.


14 posted on 10/08/2016 7:02:20 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jim Noble
The minimum wage argument is pure, stupid, AnCap mental masturbation.

According to the administration cost of living hasn't went up, but a few years back McDonald sold their breakfast sandwiches 2 for $2.00 they are now 2 for $4.00, some may not figure out that that is a 100% increase with no inflation.

The wage matters not, the cost is the thing.

15 posted on 10/08/2016 7:14:14 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Boomer One
Amazing how many people think money is an unlimited resource

It is unlimited, the value however is not.

16 posted on 10/08/2016 7:17:50 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Kaslin

Colorado will join other states in attempting to eliminate the scourge of unsightly fast food restaurants. It will be only partially successful in Colorado as it has been only partially successful in other states. Some fastfoods will close. Others will automate. There will be considerable success in eliminating those horrible low wage jobs, however, and that is a plus. Those fast food workers will all be enfolded in the welfare system to forever vote Democrat.


17 posted on 10/08/2016 8:27:30 AM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
In Việt Nam there are no zoning codes for housing. You have a piece of land you build what you can. If it blows in when a storm comes that's his tough luck .Home ownership is fairly high among the poor. Many rural rice farmers own their own houses now. They may be wattle walls and straw roofs but folks are comfortable and improve their houses as they are able without having to satisfy a host of bureaucrats. In town most newer houses are brick, single course faced with cement and tin roofs. As time passes and a family becomes more prosperous, or just saves a little more, interior walls are erected, ceilings are put in. The kitchens is moved indoors.

The house I stay in when I am there was about 200 sq ft in 2003 and would not have passed any American inspection. Thông now has a house that is close to 1800 ft. He added on and revised, doing the work himself with his wife and children, from time to time.

There are informal bribes that must be paid but that is so far less onerous than the official bribes we have to pay before we can stick a shovel in the ground and we had best not build it ourselves unless we get a contractor's license. In 2003 Thông's income worked out to about $40 a month. He is a hard worker and eft sharecropping when an opportunity came up to be a security guard at a beach resort nearby at which he made $110 and another 40-50 subbing on all his days off for other guys who wanted days off. At that level he was the economic equivalent of someone in NW Florida making perhaps $2500 a month and much is due to the fact that the government doesn't drain off so much of his income with requirements and codes. He has a nice house but it still would not pass any codes here. If a storm wrecks his roof he can afford to fix it much more easily than I could afford to fix mine.

18 posted on 10/08/2016 8:52:22 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: ladyjane

True...a living wage of $15/hour, won’t be because a living wage will be more than $15/hour because EVERYTHING WILL INCREASE due to educated folks (who is now getting $15/hour) will charge $25/hour. Me, I charge $9/hour for mowing lawns and cleaning pools, I might up my prices to $13/hour, because of inflation.


19 posted on 10/08/2016 10:18:03 AM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The RELIGION of Pedophilia...)
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If you do a good job I’ll pay you $15 an hour to do my lawn!


20 posted on 10/08/2016 10:41:48 AM PDT by ladyjane
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