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To: CrazyIvan
The Catholic Church--- even under Pope Francis --- doesn't have rejectors of the Nicene Creed, women pastors, lesbian or gay marriages, atheists or abortion-enthusiasts at the pulpit, "teachers" who call theism idolatry, open deniers of the authority of Scripture or the deity of Christ, etc.

But other than that, yeah.

61 posted on 09/30/2016 6:44:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Unless I am mistaken, I'm infallible.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; CrazyIvan
The Catholic Church--- even under Pope Francis --- doesn't have rejectors of the Nicene Creed, women pastors, lesbian or gay marriages, atheists or abortion-enthusiasts at the pulpit, "teachers" who call theism idolatry, open deniers of the authority of Scripture or the deity of Christ, etc. But other than that, yeah.

You sure about that? There's Jean Meslier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Meslier:

    Jean Meslier (French: [melje]; also Mellier; 15 June 1664[1] – 17 June 1729), was a French Catholic priest (abbé) who was discovered, upon his death, to have written a book-length philosophical essay promoting atheism. Described by the author as his "testament" to his parishioners, the text denounces all religion.

Then there's http://joearmstrong.ie/atheist-priestsoh-me-of-little-faith/:

    Joe Armstrong talks to the priests who feel trapped in their ministries – because they dare not tell their flocks they have become atheists.

    While 115 cardinals deliberate upon who will be the next pope, all around the world many priests have a far greater crisis: their unbelief in God.

    Atheist clergy – Catholic and Protestant – who have outgrown their religious faith often feel trapped financially, personally and professionally. Typical is Adam, an atheist clergyman interviewed for an American television documentary using a pseudonym, a disguised voice and being shown on film in heavy shadow lest he be identified. These measures emphasised the huge risks atheist clergy take in going public: job, livelihood, security, home, community, friends and even marriage can be at stake.

    A long-time cleric untrained for any secular job, Adam doesn’t want to risk his family’s financial security. “I wear a mask every day,” he said. “I am trapped. My greatest fear is doing nothing and pretending to be someone I am not for the rest of my life.”

    He is one of the founders of the Clergy Project, an online community of more than 400 atheist clergy, Catholic and Protestant, a quarter of whom remain in active ministry. Several of its members live in Ireland. In his bestselling 1980s book Help my Unbelief, Michael Paul Gallagher, a Jesuit priest, included a chapter entitled Saying Mass an Atheist.

And SOME CATHOLIC PRIESTS ARE ATHEISTS - SOME NEVER PRAY

I don't see how anyone can claim unequivocally that their church "doesn't have rejectors...atheists, etc."

105 posted on 09/30/2016 5:57:13 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; boatbums
The Catholic Church--- even under Pope Francis --- doesn't have rejectors of the Nicene Creed, women pastors, lesbian or gay marriages, atheists or abortion-enthusiasts at the pulpit, "teachers" who call theism idolatry, open deniers of the authority of Scripture or the deity of Christ, etc.

There is no comparison here btwn Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, while you mean openly reject such things as listed, for besides openly supporting many open denies of core beliefs, a 2002 nationwide poll of 1,854 priests in the United States and Puerto Rico reported that 19% of Roman Catholic priests affirmed that it was never a sin to engage in homosexual behavior, while 25 percent said it often was a sin, and less than half (49%) affirmed that it was always a sin.

And 19 percent responded that it often was wrong for a woman to get an abortion, and 4 percent that is seldom/never was.

28 percent judged that is always was sin for married couples to use artificial birth control, 25 percent often, 40 percent never.

111 posted on 10/01/2016 6:36:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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