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To: enumerated

Enumerated, I understand your point. But.. basically it is that Trump appeals to conservatives and Hillary appeals to liberals. Unfortunately, getting the conservative vote may not be enough to win the election. He has to woo over some non-decided, some non-voters and yes, even some libs, and the way to do it is by making them think about the dangers of voting for such a socialist candidate as hillary. He needs to CONVINCE some people to rethink their values. This is going to take work. Overcoming the left’s voter fraud is another matter!


65 posted on 09/28/2016 8:30:10 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

No, I don’t think it’s the conservatives vs the liberals at this point - here’s why:

When things are mediocre, you can argue big government vs. small government, free market vs. income equality, competition vs. affirmative action, security vs liberty, etc. and because things are mediocre, the pros and cons balance out, you can make a case either way -conservative vs. liberal.

I’ve always argue on behalf of conservatism, because according to my understanding of human nature and the laws of physics and supply and demand, etc. that liberalism would eventually take us over a cliff when “we run out of other people’s money” as Margaret Thatcher said. But when things are mediocre the cliff is still a long way off, and therefore theoretical, - it’s only my opinion, shared only by other conservatives, as you pointed out.

But when things deteriorate to where we are; 22 trillion debt, massive joblessness and job creators going overseas, or “going Galt”, our iwn government importing people who want to kill us, there comes a point where we can actually see the edge of the cliff we are heading over. Turn around! We no longer need to listen to philosophers debate about whether or not there is a cliff, which direction it is, and pick a ‘side’ to believe in, - we can all SEE it there right in front of us.

It’s simple which way to go now, we don’t need a philosophy professor or economist to explain anything - we don’t need to subscribe to a view, such as conservatism or liberalism.

Those terms lose their relevance when we are this close to the edge. The message becomes simple: turn around, and turn around quickly.

This is Trump’s message and he’s absolutely spot on. The democrats have nothing to argue with - so they’ll lose “big league”. There are still plenty of stupid people - don’t get me wrong. She’ll still get votes - but I think Trump will get a huge “crossover” of voters who still describe themselves as liberal, still think FDR or JFK or even WJC was the best Oresident ever... But they see the cliff now, so they’ll vote for Trump.

This is why you don’t hear Trump use words like ‘conservative’ or ‘liberal’ very often. The conservatives don’t like it, because they crave vindication after all these years - and I think they deserve it and they’ll get it eventually.

But right now that’s not the right message - “conservatives were right all along” that would only appeal to conservative thinkers (like you and me).

The right message right now is “we are about to go over a cliff, turn around - and do it now!” This message will appeal to all common sense people however they described themselves in the past.

Go Trump!
Keep doing whatever you are doing!
I think it’s working!


73 posted on 09/28/2016 9:19:09 AM PDT by enumerated
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