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Fact Wreck: Fact-Checking the Fact-Checkers at First Debate
Breibart.com ^ | September 27, 2016 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 09/27/2016 3:55:23 AM PDT by Biggirl

11:00 p.m. EDT: Poor FactCheck.org. Their website crashed during the debate. Viewers were left to think for themselves. The HORROR.

10:20 p.m. EDT: Lester Holt bows to the Clinton campaign, and tries to “fact-check” Trump on his support for (or opposition to) the Iraq War.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; clinton; clintontrumpdebate; factcheckers; orwelliannightmare; trump; trumpclintondebate
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1 posted on 09/27/2016 3:55:24 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE

Who Won The First 2016 Presidential Debate?

(Check One)

- Lester Holt

- Donald Trump

- Hillary Clinton


2 posted on 09/27/2016 4:06:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Iron Munro

Why in the world is this clown not referred to by everyone as: Lester Dolt ??

Seems only fitting.


3 posted on 09/27/2016 4:07:58 AM PDT by louie2 (Simply a diversion)
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To: Biggirl

The “fact checkers” on the left have just become propaganda tools of the left.


4 posted on 09/27/2016 4:08:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: louie2

I suggest calling him Mo-Lester Dolt.


5 posted on 09/27/2016 4:09:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: marktwain

It is crystal clear that the MSM is the media wing of the Democratic party. CNN edits a video of Hillary to cover for us, but we’re not supposed to notice? We won’t be able to get the facts if Obama gets his way and hands over the internet to the global powers that be.


6 posted on 09/27/2016 4:14:00 AM PDT by milford421
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To: Iron Munro

I just went through 7 different fact-check sites. They disagree with each other on what the facts are.

They cherry pick which statements to examine and which statements to give a pass.

They take literally that which was intended rhetorically and vice versa. Example:

Trump said “all your adult life”. Clearly Trump by tone of voice and everything else intended that to not be taken literally... but to be taken as an intentional and obvious exaggeration to demonstrate how little of Clinton’s time has been focused on ISIS.

Most fact checkers avoided the stop-n-frisk statements. Those who do state that what Trump said was factually correct...that the judge was removed for bias and DeBlasio failed to appeal. Yet they conclude against Trump.

“Unreasonable search and seizure”. Why do Trump and many others on the law-n-order side fail to argue that stop-n-frisk is reasonable when a cop sees a bulge in the pocket of a person with a record?


7 posted on 09/27/2016 4:14:00 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

Probably cause. I think many aren’t comfortable getting into the specifics of law.


8 posted on 09/27/2016 4:16:25 AM PDT by milford421
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To: spintreebob

You are exactly right. What many of these fact check sites do is the equivalent of lying with statistics.

For example, the NRA ran an ad saying “Hillary Clinton does not believe in your right to have a gun in the home for self defense.”

Snopes “fact check” said “Hillary never said that”. TNe NRA did not say she did, they said she believed it. When you look at the totality of her record, the NRA is clearly correct.


9 posted on 09/27/2016 4:28:45 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Biggirl

The glib manner in the way Hillary tossed out blatant lies reveals the utter contempt she has for the American voter.


10 posted on 09/27/2016 4:30:59 AM PDT by odawg
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To: spintreebob

Hillary blamed the Charlotte shooting on RACISM and said the proper response is more political re-education of the police force there.

A black police chief is supposed to convince a black officer not to shoot a black man holding a gun and advancing on officers when ordered to stop? All because a biased family member may LIE and claim he was holding a “book”?


11 posted on 09/27/2016 4:53:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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12 posted on 09/27/2016 4:53:58 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Biggirl

Why were they debating the origins of the war in Iraq when there was ZERO discussion of Hillary’s advocacy (and celebration of) war in Libya (who hadn’t committed a hostile act against us in recent times)?


13 posted on 09/27/2016 4:54:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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I was told by several friends Trump “Lied!” When he said he received the endorsement of ICE.

ICE released a statement saying they are a government agency and do not endorse any candidate.

I responded “Whoever told you this is 100% a liar and pushing a point of view by ommision.”

In fact, The Border Patrol association, which has some 16,500 members did indeed endorse Trump.

Did the agency? Nope and they are barred by law from doing so anyway.

The members of an association, however, are free to vote for and even endorse anyone they wish.

To wit: “In addition, I was just endorsed by ICE. They’ve never endorsed anybody before on immigration. I was just endorsed by ICE. I was just recently endorsed — 16,500 Border Patrol agents.”

Here is their endorsement from March 2016:http://www.bpunion.org/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/1824-national-border-patrol-council-endorses-donald-trump-for-president

Now, here is the endorsement from The National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council represents 5,000 federal immigration officers and law enforcement staff
http://iceunion.org/news/ice-union-endorses-trump

So, did DJT receive the endorsement of our Border Patrol and ICE agents or not?

The question answers itself....


14 posted on 09/27/2016 4:55:05 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Wow. She was wearing a wire.

Can see the outline from her hip, all the way up her spine.

Pathetic...


15 posted on 09/27/2016 4:56:51 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
ICE released a statement saying they are a government agency and do not endorse any candidate.

The IRS, through their partisan witchhunt of tea party patriot groups and fast-tracking of pro-Bama groups, endorsed Barrack's re-election in 2012.

16 posted on 09/27/2016 4:57:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: odawg

Her out-of-touch sh(t-eating-grin during the debate was her adamant refusal to face ANY facts.

And she refuses to accept the blame for ANYTHING in 30 years.

Go to a job interview, it is quite common in office environment interviews to be asked “name a time when something went wrong or you missed a schedule date and how do you respond/handle it?”


17 posted on 09/27/2016 5:00:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Bingo!


18 posted on 09/27/2016 5:02:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: marktwain
"The “fact checkers” on the left have just become propaganda tools of the left."

When were they not?? That is what they were designed from scratch to be.

19 posted on 09/27/2016 6:12:28 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

You are correct.

Much of the problem is that they are very good at lying to themselves.


20 posted on 09/27/2016 6:32:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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