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1 posted on 09/23/2016 7:57:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I agree with much of this. I have a number of police officers I count as friends. There is one caveat though to this article; just as not all doctors are good doctors, and not all plumbers are good plumbers, not all cops are good cops. There are a number of bad cops out there, that range from lazy, corrupt, to those using a gun and badge to live out revenge fantasies. They are not the majority, but they do exist. For example, there is a local officer who profiles and pulls over people just based on their looks, and is known to lie about having probable cause. The other cops say they don’t like doing back up for him because they know what he’s doing is wrong.

But they don’t stop it.

The good, hard working cops know who they are. They need to stop covering for them and get rid of them, in their own interest as well as for society’s.


2 posted on 09/23/2016 8:03:31 AM PDT by henkster (Democrats want to keep blacks on the plantation and whites on the collective farm.)
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I’ll take one for the team here.

“Any” job where physical prowess is a basic requirement, unless a woman can handle herself in training that is non-PC, she shouldn’t be in that job. The Tulsa PD, because of PC laws were forced to put this cop on the streets, knowing full well that this would eventually happen. This wasn’t an if, this was a when.


3 posted on 09/23/2016 8:05:44 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump will win New York.)
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To: Kaslin
The truth is that most cops are good, a few are bad, they are necessary and do plenty of good work but a certain portion of their time is spent harassing law-abiding/more-or-less law-abiding people because those who make the law force them to. I think most of us are glad the police are there, but aren't happy to have one behind your car when you're driving down the road. Obviously police deserve respect, and in return they should treat the people they serve (key word there) with respect, although in the current climate I can fully understand how police might be reserved when dealing with other citizens.

To the last part -- if a female cop feels that she has to revert to deadly force in a situation when male cop wouldn't simply because she is too weak to physically handle a threat, then she SHOULD NOT be a cop. Come to think of it, women really, really shouldn't be cops at all. Obviously there are going to be muscle-bound, drug-addled thugs that practically nobody can subdue, but a male in good physical shape can reasonably be expected to handle most people he might encounter. The opposite is true of females, even those in physical condition much superior to an average female.

4 posted on 09/23/2016 8:10:36 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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Meanwhile, thugs can be thugs.


5 posted on 09/23/2016 8:13:12 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Deplorable Me)
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I think police officers should have a 4y college degree plus one year in training and be paid more money. Less cops, better cops.


6 posted on 09/23/2016 8:15:04 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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A cop goes to work every day not being assured that they will return home at the end of the day.

Bad guys go to work each day trying to figure out who they are going to rob, scam, mess-up or where they are going to score their next drug fix.

It is beyond coincidence that the black community has far more representation on the bad guy side of this equation. It is also beyond coincidence that most of the crime occurs in cities that have been under democrat party control for generations.

Blue live matter.

7 posted on 09/23/2016 8:18:07 AM PDT by pfflier
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After the charges being filed against the Tulsa Police Officer for the recent shooting of an unarmed black man it begs the question, just what kind of a message are we sending to female police officers ? If they find themselves facing a potentially violent encounter with a much larger individual, are we telling them that they have just been stripped of deadly force as an option ?

What if there are no backup officers nearby and she finds herself thrust into the middle of a violent confrontation with a very large and unarmed male, perhaps under the effects of some mind-altering substance ? Does she take a beating, and perhaps be knocked unconscious and be disarmed, and then have the weapon used against her ?

Straw man arguments.

Betty Shelby was not alone nor without back-up. If she were, then these arguments would hold water.

16 posted on 09/23/2016 9:30:16 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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Sure there are bad cops. Most are good guys.

BUT.... Training must be changed and police culture must be changed.

First, they have to stop shooting DOGS. Actually I think this has improved.

2nd, They have to stop “shooting to kill”, PEOPLE, regardless of race.

3rd, More non lethal methods need to be employed.

4th, Cops number one focus is to survive each shift. This is wrong! If they are so afraid of surviving each day at work, they need to get a new job. Protecting the public and arresting (not killing) bad guys should be their main focus.

5th, I hate to say it, but cops seem to be looking too hard for justification to use lethal force. I think this is in their training and it is a big mistake.

The best example of this is assault on a police officer by means of bumping a police car with an officer in it by a suspect in his vehicle.

OMG, the reaction by police is as if the suspect just emptied a 30 round clip at the cops.

I saw a real video once where a suspect (bank robber I think), avoiding a roadblock to stop him, drove off the road to go around the roadblock, literally running over a standing police officer.

THAT was justification for lethal use of force. Denting a police car SHOULD NOT BE.

Several cops emptying their magazines into a suspect who is not shooting at them, is not justified.

“Trigger happy” seems to be a phrase that applies way too often.

On a side note, every time I see an obese cop, I don’t understand how they are allowed to continue on the job. They are obviously incapable of properly performing their job.

Do they not have standards? Do they not have to pass periodical physical fitness tests?


18 posted on 09/23/2016 9:40:40 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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It's imperfect people doing their best to enforce imperfect laws, in an often times very difficult environment, and being forced to make split second, sometimes life and death decisions, most of the time with little if any information to base their decisions on

'Wonder if a training video shows a traffic stop where the driver steps out with a spear gun?

29 posted on 09/23/2016 2:43:30 PM PDT by Does so (Vote for Hillary...Stay Home...==8-O)
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