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RAW VIDEO: Police Shoot Suspect in Oklahoma (GRAPHIC)
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Posted on 09/19/2016 3:12:00 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: PLMerite
"No gun on suspect, or in the vehicle". This is Criminal investigation" according the Police Chief.

Hope you learned your lesson.

121 posted on 09/19/2016 5:34:43 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: PLMerite
Try it and get back to us...

I'm not a black male and I don't live in Tulsa so I doubt I could recreate the situation.

122 posted on 09/19/2016 5:35:16 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: PLMerite
How do you know that? Maybe the vehicle stalled because he hot-wired it poorly. Maybe he mouthed off to the cop. Maybe he wouldn’t produce ID. Maybe he kept putting his hands in his pockets or into his waistband. Maybe he fit a description. Maybe he just wouldn’t stand still, like he was nervous or guilty.

All capital offenses. </sarcasm>

123 posted on 09/19/2016 5:36:50 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Karl Spooner

“”No gun on suspect, or in the vehicle”. This is Criminal investigation” according the Police Chief.

Hope you learned your lesson.”

Immaterial. That guy was big enough to be a threat with his bare hands. That’s why they told him to put his hands up and stand still, which he did not do.

And save the smugness for when something has actually been determined.


124 posted on 09/19/2016 5:37:57 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: TADSLOS

“This guy was following his own suicide script.”

Now some officer will be sacrificed to this upcoming PC witch hunt.


125 posted on 09/19/2016 5:40:14 PM PDT by sagar
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To: PLMerite

He was still on the ground when they shot him. Run that through your mind until it sinks in.


126 posted on 09/19/2016 5:40:27 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: dragnet2

Resist and die


127 posted on 09/19/2016 5:40:28 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: DoodleDawg

Sarcasm aside, how do you think cops figure things out?

Those are all “tells” about behavior. Maybe not absolute, but they’re red flags.

How many times have you heard a cop say that someone was “acting suspicious?”


128 posted on 09/19/2016 5:43:13 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: dragnet2
Again, it’s already been mentioned the suspect was about 1 or so from cover, a vehicle, and a weapon or possibly multiple weapons.

What weapons? The police have said that the man was unarmed and there were no weapons in the SUV. The police were not responding to a different incident when they came across the SUV stalled in the road. Apparently his only crime is he refused to obey the officer commands, and since he wasn't doing anything illegal there was no legal reason why he should have. And for that he gets shot.

129 posted on 09/19/2016 5:44:22 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Just an honest mistake. Give the bootlickers a break.


130 posted on 09/19/2016 5:46:42 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

Like I said, I’ll wait until I see a more coherent presentation of the facts. I couldn’t see when the guy got tasered, and the audio I get on the video is not live from the cops mics until the female officer yells “shots fired.”


131 posted on 09/19/2016 5:50:51 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PLMerite
Those are all “tells” about behavior. Maybe not absolute, but they’re red flags.

And when their "tells" are wrong, they misread their red flags, and shoot an unarmed man who was doing nothing wrong then what next? My God, a man is dead and there is no reason why he should be. There was no threat to the police or anyone in the area. There was no justification for this.

132 posted on 09/19/2016 5:51:37 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“What weapons? The police have said that the man was unarmed and there were no weapons in the SUV.”

Cops didn’t know that at the time.

“Apparently his only crime is he refused to obey the officer commands, and since he wasn’t doing anything illegal there was no legal reason why he should have.”

How have you lived as long as you have?


133 posted on 09/19/2016 5:52:45 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PLMerite

You mean you couldn’t see the “suspect” fall to the pavement after they said they were going to tazer him? Before the shot was fired?


134 posted on 09/19/2016 5:53:39 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

This is the video I’m operating from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfG5oxQAoKs

There’s commercial radio broken by snippets of police talk. I don’t hear anything about “going to tazer him.”

The voice you hear saying “I think he’s just been tazered,” is the helicopter pilot overhead upon seeing the guy fall down (from being shot?), followed immediately by the “shots fired” call.

Unless you have a better timeline?


136 posted on 09/19/2016 6:00:04 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Why they were there is irrelevant to what was happening when the man was shot.


137 posted on 09/19/2016 6:05:47 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: IVAXMAN
There looks to be a black object on the ground between the suspect and the car. Did he drop something, a weapon ?

He dropped about a pint of arterial blood as it found its way back out the wound channel. Guy was dead before he hit the deck. Getting shot under the arm, through the lungs, into the aorta/heart area is a very VERY quick way to go. Very messy too.

138 posted on 09/19/2016 6:11:44 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: PLMerite

Still on the ground in your video too when he was shot. This is a criminal investigation. Not your typical in house whitewash ethics enquiry.


139 posted on 09/19/2016 6:18:39 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: DoodleDawg
Again, it’s already been mentioned the suspect was about 1 or so seconds from cover, a vehicle, and a weapon or possibly multiple weapons

What weapons?

Uh, the one with the steering wheel. Hello?

140 posted on 09/19/2016 6:23:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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