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Impervious Hubris: How U.S. Intelligence Failures Led to ISIS
Frontpage ^ | September 16, 2016 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 09/16/2016 5:18:32 AM PDT by detective

A decade after U.S. leadership declared a “war on terror,” all it has to show for it is the creation of the Islamic State—an Islamic body that has taken terror and atrocities to a whole new level.

How did this happen?

A key factor often overlooked is the intelligence community’s failures concerning what fuels the jihadis.

Consider Michael Scheuer, author of the 2004 national bestseller Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror. Scheuer’s credentials as described in that book are impressive: “For the past seventeen years, my career has focused exclusively on terrorism, Islamic insurgencies, militant Islam… I have earned my keep and am able to speak with some authority and confidence about Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda, [and] the dangers they pose and symbolize for the Unites States…” Indeed, Scheuer also served as Senior Adviser for the Osama Bin Laden Department and Chief of the Sunni Militant Unit.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Syria
KEYWORDS: ibrahim; isis; isishistory; muslims; obama; terrorists
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The Obama administration is responsible for the recent increase in Islamic terrorist incidents and for the increasing power of ISIS.

The Obama administration people have blood on their hands.

1 posted on 09/16/2016 5:18:32 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective
The preceding commie forerunner .. clinton ... did away with the nasty people intel (those people that may have farted in public, never bathed and maybe even killed a few folks just for fun, but they damned sure KNEW what they were talking about and shared it with Americans) .......... and replaced them with more "acceptable" reports.

President Trump can't take control fast enough !

2 posted on 09/16/2016 5:25:04 AM PDT by knarf
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To: detective

“Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror” = Barry 0bummer & The Regime From Hell.


3 posted on 09/16/2016 5:37:15 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: detective

It’s simpleton to blame only Zero. One hypothesis: What if it’s not a failure, but intentional?

Think about that...


4 posted on 09/16/2016 5:52:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; arthurus; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Ax; ...

MI Ping


5 posted on 09/16/2016 6:02:05 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: detective

U.S. intelligence failure did not create ISIS. ISIS is a globalist creation led by Soros’ minions Hillary and Barack. They arraigned for their weapons and then destabilized the middle east.


6 posted on 09/16/2016 6:11:04 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: detective

I think the real hubris is deciding that the petrodollar is so important that the USA must support whatever ISIS-like schemes the Saudis and Qataris come up with while attempting to win their Islamic civil war against the Shiites.


7 posted on 09/16/2016 6:11:26 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: detective
The origins of the ISIS and the jihad is Syria:

“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Why the Arabs don’t want us in Syria, Politico

http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-mideast-conflict-oil-intervention/

When will the U.S./West figure out that weaponizing Islam and fomenting jihad, the weapon of choice which the West has used for the past 40 years for temporary geo-political gains, has been disastrous and is leaving a nightmare for its descendents??

8 posted on 09/16/2016 6:17:57 AM PDT by AC Beach Patrol
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me. ..................

9 posted on 09/16/2016 6:23:45 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: ASA Vet

I don’t see it so much as an MI fail, but as a total and complete cultural fail or the US in particular and “The West” in general.

Obama, at Mogadishu, called it correct in his fatwhaa. We are “paper tigers”.

We, as a people, are not currently capable of fighting to win in any endeavor, military or otherwise.

The intel fail is just a symptom of our rot caused disease.


10 posted on 09/16/2016 6:45:16 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
I agree with your comments.

As the English writer G.K. Chesterton said, "The only defensible war is a war of defense... A real soldier does not fight because he has something that he hates in front of him. He fights because he has something that he loves behind his back."

I could add a lot of superfluous follow-up commentary on this. But it would be just that, so I won't.

11 posted on 09/16/2016 7:10:27 AM PDT by AC Beach Patrol
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THERE WAS NO INTEL FAILURE....

THE FAILURE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE FAILURE TO ACT ON THE INTEL, TO REJECT IT AND TO ENACT ITS OWN AGENDA TO SUPPORT ISIS, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD AND AL QUEDA...

OBAMA IS ONE OF THEM...
actions speak louder thatn words

GITMO RELEASES
OPEN BORDERS
ISIS SUPPORT
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD SUPPORT IN EGYPT
LYBIA
SYRIA
IRAN

it should be OBVIOUS to even a casual observer ...
THE MAN AND HIS ADVISORS ARE PLAYING FOR THE OTHER SIDE IN THE WAR ON TERROR.... THAT MAKES THEM TRAITORS.... worse than Benedict Arnold
his actions put the USA at risk and facilitate the arming and actions of our enemies...


12 posted on 09/16/2016 7:19:58 AM PDT by zzwhale (no way)
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To: detective

Hillary and Obozzo both


13 posted on 09/16/2016 8:15:41 AM PDT by aces ( Islam is the religion of the dead, Got Jesus?)
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To: zzwhale

Thanks for this excellent summary posting of who is/was responsible for the so called intel failure.

THERE WAS NO INTEL FAILURE....

THE FAILURE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE FAILURE TO ACT ON THE INTEL, TO REJECT IT AND TO ENACT ITS OWN AGENDA TO SUPPORT ISIS, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD AND AL QUEDA...

OBAMA IS ONE OF THEM...
actions speak louder thatn words

GITMO RELEASES
OPEN BORDERS
ISIS SUPPORT
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD SUPPORT IN EGYPT
LIBYA
SYRIA
IRAN

It should be OBVIOUS to even a casual observer ...
THE MAN AND HIS ADVISORS ARE PLAYING FOR THE OTHER SIDE IN THE WAR ON TERROR.... THAT MAKES THEM TRAITORS.... worse than Benedict Arnold his actions put the USA at risk and facilitate the arming and actions of our enemies...


14 posted on 09/16/2016 8:37:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illiarily is the mentally ill/staggering/falling/terminal left wing candidate for president!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yep.

5.56mm


15 posted on 09/16/2016 8:41:33 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: detective; ASA Vet

Besides the Obama/Clintoons destroying/maiming our MI, there is another factor that has been around for a long time.

That happens when the local commanders ignore intel warning them that the enemy is planning to attack.

A prime example was the TET warnings that some local commanders ignored in Nam. ASA Vet can verify this.

A Navy ship captain listened to a Crypto warning that his sailors would be in danger in the liberty port stop in Santa Domingo, Dominican Republic, from the Castro bastards months after the Cuban Missile Crisis was over.

He got the Santa Domingo police, Dominican police and Coast Guard to get his sailors back on the ship. The ship left Santa Domingo in less than a hour after the CO gave the orders to get our sailors back on board. One of the ensigns was not there when the ship pulled out at flank speed. The Dominican Coast Guard brought the ensign to the ship out of the port and transferred him from one of their coastal patrol boats.

Later, the Dominicans founded and rounded up a Cuban Hit team that had been secretly brought on shore to kill and maim US sailors.

If that ship’s captain had not heeded the Critic crypto warning report to get out of Dodge with his sailors, a blood bath would have probably happened.

How many times has Obama/Clinton/Kerry ignored good intel to warn our embassy people and military personnel.


16 posted on 09/16/2016 9:49:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illiarily is the mentally ill/staggering/falling/terminal left wing candidate for president!!!)
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To: logi_cal869
“It’s simpleton to blame only Zero. One hypothesis: What if it’s not a failure, but intentional?”

In my comment I said:

“The Obama administration is responsible for the recent increase in Islamic terrorist incidents and for the increasing power of ISIS.

The Obama administration people have blood on their hands.”

Let me say the same thing again, only even more directly.

The Obama administration is responsible. It was intentional.

17 posted on 09/16/2016 9:51:02 AM PDT by detective
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“I don’t see it so much as an MI fail, but as a total and complete cultural fail or the US in particular and “The West” in general.”

As I said in my earlier comment, the Obama administration is responsible for this.

And it was intentional.

18 posted on 09/16/2016 9:52:52 AM PDT by detective
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To: zzwhale
“THERE WAS NO INTEL FAILURE....

THE FAILURE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE FAILURE TO ACT ON THE INTEL, TO REJECT IT AND TO ENACT ITS OWN AGENDA TO SUPPORT ISIS, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD AND AL QUEDA”

As I said earlier in my comments, the Obama administration was responsible.

Let me add, it was intentional.

19 posted on 09/16/2016 9:54:48 AM PDT by detective
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As Obama and his regime are a symptom of our current cultural fail, I don’t see how I could disagree.


20 posted on 09/16/2016 10:59:52 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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