[Steely Tom]

That's 18,000 lbs with afterburner.

The F404's thrust specs are almost exactly the same as the venerable J-79 of fifty years ago; about 11,000 lbs dry, 18,000 lbs with afterburner.

The F404 has just a little bit better fuel consumption than did the J-79, 0.81 lb/lb-hr vs 0.85 for the J-79 (dry).

Big difference seems to be in weight and size.

F404 is about four feet shorter than the J-79, and is about half the weight.

[BatGuano]

I would have loved to fly this new trainer. I didn't even get to fly the T-38 Talon. Was stuck in the T-37 and T-33 for my training. The “T-bird engine produced 3,500 lbs of thrust for a 15,100 Gross Weight airplane. Nothing like this new bird.