Mr Seaman is an honest liberal a Dennis Kasinich, a Bernie Sanders (until he sold out) type if you will. I could have a cold beer with them, we'd disagree immensely, but I know were they stand.
Hillary stands for?....
I agree about Seaman. I have some “honest liberal” friends and we do have a few beers and intellectually spar with each other. They mean well but are misguided, to say the least. Seaman appears to be one of them.
As for my liberal friends, they are popping rationalizations like a roll of Sweet Tarts to justify voting for Hillary. They don’t like Trump, but can’t pull for Hillary. Personally, I think about half of them will say “F... it, I wash my hands” and not vote. I don’t agree with them, I’m just explaining their thinking.