Posted on 09/04/2016 6:35:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
What a novel concept that a country would decide who gets to enter it and who doesnt.
Actually, its not novel at all. In fact, it was the standard for most of American history. But in 2016, progressives absolutely have lost their minds over the prospect of ensuring those who seek to come to the United States actually add something to it.
Whatever you think of Donald Trump, he did, after a half-hour or so of standard campaign boilerplate, give specifics on his immigration plans in his speech Wednesday night in Phoenix.
His plan has 10 points. They are, as he put it:
1 Build a wall along the southern border.
2 End Catch-And-Release.
3 Zero tolerance for criminal aliens.
4 Block funding for sanctuary cities.
5 Cancel unconstitutional executive orders and enforce all immigration laws.
6 Suspend issuing visas to people from any country where adequate screening cannot occur.
7 Ensure other countries take their people back when we order them deported.
8 Complete the biometric entry-exit visa tracking system.
9 Turn off the jobs and benefits magnet.
10 Reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers.
Honestly, theres nothing there a rational person would find objectionable. But Democrats arent rational people.
Actually, most of what Trump laid out is current U.S. law, or close. Its simply not being enforced because Democrats dont like it. Wonder how theyd feel if a Republican president declared no one would be imprisoned for not paying taxes because it would take parents from their children through no fault of their own. But our national sovereignty? Meh.
Liberals responses to Trumps speech show theyve lost the remaining solids in the vacuum between their ears. I collected some of the most unhinged reactions here.
Some are funny. Most are clinically insane and expose their hatred of America. Everything from Nazi comparisons to uncontrollable shaking to actually attacking angel moms parents who had children killed by illegal aliens their animosity knows no bounds.
The part that bothered progressives most was the concept of screening immigrants to make sure they are an addition, not a drag, on society. It is our right as a sovereign nation to choose immigrants that we think are the likeliest to thrive and flourish here, Trump said.
How does anyone who loves this country have a problem with that? The answer, of course, is they dont. But progressives do.
Democrats would have you believe the great migration at the start of the 20th century was a free-for-all with wide-open doors flooded with anyone and everyone who wanted to come here. That simply isnt true.
Ellis Island was not a turnstile; it was a weigh station. Immigrants seeking the American Dream had to prove they would add value to the country, not be a drag on it. They needed a sponsor and were checked for diseases. If they didnt pass the standards set at the time, they were denied entry and sent back. Thats a stark difference from today.
Democrats welcome, and even encourage, anyone to simply cross the border or overstay a visa without consequence. They seek to take the extra step in conferring citizenship on them, which actually negates the need for either a border or visas. Without those a country is simply a landmass.
This is, of course, all about votes. Were Democrats compassionate theyd be concerned with the Americans losing out on jobs or having their identities stolen by the illegal aliens, as have 1.1 million Americans in the past few years whom the IRS couldnt be bothered to notify. Such compassion…
The only thing missing from Trumps proposal is the imposition of massive fines on employers who hire illegals. Cut them off from work, cut them off from benefits designed for Americans, problem nearly solved.
On the most controversial component of the immigration issue Trump remained mostly silent. He still says there will be no amnesty, but hes not going to commit the mass deportations hes discussed in the past.
Trump said he, or more likely a future president, would resolve the question of what to do with the millions of illegal aliens here already. That discussion, he said, can only take place in an atmosphere in which illegal immigration is a memory of the past, allowing us to weigh the different options available based on the new circumstances at the time.
No matter where you fall on the issue, nothing Trump said was either crazy and extreme or squishy and insignificant. On one of the signature issues of his campaign, Trump played it relatively safe. And a rational Trump, even in just one speech, is what terrifies the left more than anything. The idea of enforcing U.S. law, of placing whats best for Americans ahead of immediate political gains, is what drives liberals crazy.
Trumps speech may not have broken much new ground, but it did peel back the curtain, just a bit, of what Democrats have become. It did force them to expose themselves a little further. That may be more valuable to his campaign in the long run.
Politicians (of both parties) are some of the most verifiably stupid people on the planet.
Not so much stupid as self serving. Calling them stupid makes it sound like what they do is because they are mentally challenge instead of intentionally enriching themselves.
The political divide is no longer Left-Right.
Those are old-fashioned terms and they dont especially mean anything. For example, George Will is right wing. Huh?
The real divide is Globalist-Nationalist.
Nationalists are demonized.
If you stand up for America, youre the bad guy.
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Dittos on that, good buddy
Unfortunately, as always, many innocents will suffer in the process. But the innocents are expendable, in the minds of these would-be tyrants.
Such is the irony - they decry capitalism, yet act in their own self-interest.
True. A thought more native to the Dhimmicrat mind is deciding who gets to leave it and who doesnt.
Examples Soviet Union, Cuba and North Korea. This is the kind of border enforcement the Dhimmicrats can understand.
Oh, and you don't get a trial. You do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. Can't come up with proper documentation, out you go.
I guess that 10 million deportations must be the limit. After all, that's the number that Impeached President Clinton deported during his 8 years in office.
Yup. I have been saying this for decades!
Someone on Trump's campaign staff or his advisors should wake up.
This ain't rocket science.
“Democrats dont love or even like America.”
Also, they do not like Americans, Capitalism, individualism, apparently petro, red meat, God, innocence, trouble making fetuses, and themselves!
Marijuana is okay...helps them cope with all the above by keeping their minds in the fog/clouds.
That, and eliminating “anchor babies.” Trump has talked in the past about how illegals cross the border, drop a baby, and then “we have to take care of the baby for 18 years.” So I know he must oppose anchor babies. Not sure why that wasn’t mentioned in the speech, or maybe I missed it?
You need to upgrade your knowledge database...
More important, liberals here know that if they can break the nationalist feeling here, they will have made great progress advancing their cause.
4 Block funding for sanctuary cities.
4 Block funding to states that have sanctuary cities.
Fixed with results to ensue.
And Ryan, and GOPe as well...No difference.
And have been having some interesting conversations here on FR with conservatives who (presumably, unknowingly) support globalist free trade, while I argue for tariffs on imports; a more Nationalistic view but one self-describe conservatives have real issues with.
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If I remember my economics major correctly—eight years back—it’s that total utility (or worth, or however you want to say it. The ‘official’ term is utility) is maximized when goods and services flow freely.
With one caveat, and that is, ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.
The problem is that all these ‘trade’ agreements are anything but equal. The countries that we have these agreements with aren’t looking to maximize utility, and so they set their own tariffs and taxes, which ultimately makes the US worse off than if we had no trade agreement at all.
We can’t change what THEY do, but we can change what WE do. Putting up tariffs can snag some of that utility back from the nations taking advantage of us... and a willingness to fight back economically may well convince them to lower their own trade barriers, or at least not raise them too high.
They opposed Christian missionaries coming into help in Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein because they said it tainted (the post-Christian) culture.
Stalinists lie. ALWAYS
classy.
You seem to get into an incredible number of interpersonal conflicts on FR
Don’t attack me. I’m on the right side.
Some say the anchor baby law is just a deliberate misinterpretation and that no new legislation is needed. Just surprised Trump didn’t mention the “we have to take care of them for 18 years” excellent point.
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