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Polls: Today, Trump and Hillary Tied like Reagan and Carter in September 1980
Time ^ | September 15, 1980

Posted on 09/02/2016 10:01:45 AM PDT by whiterhino

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To: TheNext

A fair bit of relevance for those who are trying to make electoral predictions based on polls.

If one is trying to make predictions as to how he might govern, you are right. That said, while

Trump is no Reagan, Obama is no Carter, W is no Nixon, Clinton no LBJ, and Bush Sr. no Eisenhower. With the exception of Reagan, and perhaps Nixon, the presidents from the respective parties have been getting steadily worse. If Trump can improve on this by at least being better than the Bushes, let him drive the car.


21 posted on 09/02/2016 10:19:10 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: whiterhino

I thought Carter had remained well ahead in September. I thought the race didn’t tighten until the end, and by tighten I mean what the presstitutes were willing to admit.


22 posted on 09/02/2016 10:19:32 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: whiterhino

Our neighborhood is so safe that people actually put out Trump signs on their lawns.


23 posted on 09/02/2016 10:23:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: whiterhino

John Anderson was VERY visible in 1980.
He was literally all over television.

I could not even tell you what Gary Johnson looks like.
He’s north of 8%? Seems highly unlikely.


24 posted on 09/02/2016 10:24:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ichabod1

“I thought Carter had remained well ahead in September. I thought the race didn’t tighten until the end, and by tighten I mean what the presstitutes were willing to admit.”


Yes, that was the impression Walter Cronkite gave me too! LOL!


25 posted on 09/02/2016 10:24:32 AM PDT by whiterhino
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To: henkster

Sam Donaldson was the absolute worst. He was there when Reagan got shot and was later quoted by associates expressing private disappointment that the wounds weren’t fatal. He was a scumbag’s scumbag.


26 posted on 09/02/2016 10:26:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Our neighborhood is so safe that people actually put out Trump signs on their lawns.”


Meh, too much work for me in my Lib city, I’d have to replace it every morning.


27 posted on 09/02/2016 10:27:08 AM PDT by whiterhino
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To: whiterhino

My dad’s generation was intentionally deceived by the roll of the press. They are playing the same game today, but I ain’t buying it.


28 posted on 09/02/2016 10:28:46 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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Reagan's pollster was a man named Richard Wirthlin who was so good that he predicted a 40 state win to Reagan privately. He underestimated by four.

I had the distinct pleasure of taking a college level statistics class from one of Withlin's staffers who shared some of the techniques. Wirthlin's group honed those stills enough by 1984 that he predicted a 47 state win. This time, he was only off by two.

29 posted on 09/02/2016 10:30:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: whiterhino

Like I’ve been saying...

TRUMP LANDSLIDE COMING


30 posted on 09/02/2016 10:34:39 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: entropy12

It will all comedown to the debates. Who wins Number one will win the election.


31 posted on 09/02/2016 10:37:11 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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In the debates, Trump can think very fast on his feet. Hillary will be sitting no doubt, rolling through her memorized list of zingers.


32 posted on 09/02/2016 10:50:46 AM PDT by whiterhino
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To: whiterhino

I know Reagan land slided Carter but how the hell could polls even have it close with double digit inflation and interest rates and the military in shambles


33 posted on 09/02/2016 10:56:40 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Hieronymus
With the exception of Reagan, and perhaps Nixon

Nixon and his buddy Kissinger were worthless

DETENTE with the Russians and going to China to kiss the Chicom's butt
34 posted on 09/02/2016 11:00:35 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I could not even tell you what Gary Johnson looks like.
He’s north of 8%? Seems highly unlikely.”

He kind of reminds me of a stoned version of John Kasich for some reason.

He’s all over Facebook ... that probably explains his relatively high percentage in polls ... however, like you, I find it unlikely that he’ll get that much support in the election. Moreover, if he does appear on TV and starts talking, I suspect he’ll snag more votes from Clinton than Trump. He’s a left-leaning Libertarian ... and I don’t think his message resonates well with centrist RINOs.

If Johnson plucks votes from the mainstream party candidates, they’ll mostly be centrist Dems sick of the Democratic Party, but too brainwashed to ever pull the level for a Republican. I think the Democrats will see to it that Johnson doesn’t appear in the debates for that reason.


35 posted on 09/02/2016 11:01:41 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A friend of mine was working on behalf of John Anderson. I asked her what was the reason to vote for him because all I really heard from him was that he wasn’t Reagan and he wasn’t Carter. She couldn’t or wouldn’t give me an answer.

It might have been Republican in favor of abortion, but I really think there was no reason except fear of Reagan just like with Trump now. I expect this to turn out the same way except that they have much better vote fraud apparatus now.


36 posted on 09/02/2016 11:12:18 AM PDT by Sal (It's time to flush the 'PEE away!)
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To: whiterhino

Ah, back in the days when California was a battleground state.

Will that ever happen again in our lifetime?


37 posted on 09/02/2016 11:19:45 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: uncbob

Probably oversampling Dems like they do now. And a portion of the undecideds haven’t even worried about the race yet.


38 posted on 09/02/2016 11:24:13 AM PDT by whiterhino
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To: edh

The MSM may be trying to inflate Johnson’s numbers so he gets into the debates. They certainly fear a one on one debate between Trump and Cankles


39 posted on 09/02/2016 11:37:45 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Vigilanteman

I also vividly remember the day Reagan was shot; also my senior year in college. The reason I remember it so well other than the obvious reason is I was a senior at Indiana University, and IU was scheduled to play North Carolina for the NCAA basketball championship that night. We did not know if the game would be played or not. It was; I still have the front page of the Bloomington paper the next day on the wall of my office. Two headlines: “Hoosiers NCAA Champs” and “Reagan Condition Excellent After Surgeons Remove Bullet.”

And Sam Donaldson was evil. He even looked evil with that creepy bizarre lopsided head of his. I never believed a word he said.


40 posted on 09/02/2016 12:09:44 PM PDT by henkster
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