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To: fwdude
Before that happens, millions of “Catholics” need to be excommunicated.

They've already excommunicated themselves. That they choose to live their lives piling on sin after sin is between them and their final judge.

3 posted on 08/31/2016 1:21:31 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Trump is to the political class what Uber is to taxicab companies)
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To: COBOL2Java

Not from what I’ve seen.

Happily done with the “C”hurch for 6 years now. I’m still more prolife than many showing up twice a year for mass and sending their kids to the church’s school. Never see them at the MFL DC or in attendance at our vigils outside PP.

There was no larger offender that the Msgr of Sts Simon and Jude in West Chester, PA who couldn’t bother to raise the topic of protecting the unborn the mass before obama’s first white house win.

Money. Money. Money.


4 posted on 08/31/2016 1:28:06 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: COBOL2Java

Excellent post to an excellent thread ~ T Y!

Liberty and justice for all cannot possibly be achieved by man. The Founders knew that man is utterly incapable of governing his fellow man justly, without adhering to God’s law. They all understood that the foundations for governmental justice and liberty must stem from the ultimate source of all justice and liberties, id est, Almighty God.

A quote from James Madison expressed their beliefs succinctly, “Any country not ruled by the Ten Commandments will be ruled by tyrants.”


5 posted on 08/31/2016 1:30:35 PM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: COBOL2Java
I don't buy the "excommunicated themselves" jargon. That's just a cop-out. Excommunication has historically ALWAYS involved an action by the visible Church against a willful heretic.

Lack of such punitive action is implicitly condoning the heretic's crimes.

18 posted on 08/31/2016 2:13:53 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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