Posted on 08/29/2016 5:38:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
I could retort (being faithfully “contrarian”) that if we ever leaned on “government” or even “society” to guide us as to what was Christian, we went to the wrong places. Even in a time that saw more friendliness to the faith. But it’s true that “Because of iniquity, the love of many will grow cold.” All some people knew of the Lord was indirect, through society or government. And when secular trends began to fight against that, those people fell.
I’d like to beg the indulgence to assert that we should welcome secular friends to the faith, but never ever lean on them. Let a stout private fire to the Lord burn in our hearts, one that does not depend on secular fuels.
Well said. I've had run-ins with some crappy black punks and wish they were dead. However, I've had a lot of good black friends and still do. You soon figure out what type of person anyone is, whether white or black, and decide whether to allow them to get close. I know some crappy white trailer trash people and keep my distance. Punks come in all colors.
Eight years of Walter Williams as president would have been far, far, far better for America, than eight years of obama.
And I would have voted for him and made sure everyone I knew did too.
No, I’m not judging you; I’m weighing your comments and find them lacking grace and wisdom. Skin color is neither a magnet nor a defense against evil. Avoiding anyone who is possessed by demons is wise, all the more so a gang. In this wicked world we need all the righteous, of any tribe under heaven, and blacks are no exception.
I have seen many examples of young white girls seeking adventure in the drug dealing streets. I have seen several that I knew personally come to a bad end. It is as you say, they chased a lifestyle that had a high probability of ending badly and quickly.
There is a forbidden Taboo attraction for a lot of white girls between themselves and black members of the street culture. It is some sort of "thrill" that pulls at them. Women are often attracted to "bad boys", and how much more forbidden can you get than a violent black drug dealer?
Again, i've seen many girls jump into this life. I used to have several black drug dealer friends, and we've spent hours talking about street culture, and women. (They have since moved away, and last I heard, one of them has had a stroke.)
Some of them are quite intelligent and very philosophical. People would be surprised.
I expect that is true, but that is true of a President pretty much anywhere. I'm sure the Secret Service has reached a clear understanding with the street captains of that area.
Wisdom embraces a wide variety of circumstances, including why you’re where you are in the first place. There may be excellent reasons to tread into danger, but larks are not among them.
"Larks" are among the primary motivation of well to do young white girls. Sensibility is not usually something of which they have an abundance.
Circumstances make a lot of difference. A policy that might make sense in someone’s circumstances might not make sense in someone else’s.
When my mother passed away untimely, a seemingly nice black lady she knew offered to help with the household chores. She’d make lunch for me and keep the clothes washed as well as using the laundry for her own items, something that we gladly granted. But she began to pilfer. When Dad and I happened to check the silverware chest and found it almost picked clean, we called an end to it. Sometimes things like this happen. We don’t think any of our white acquaintances would have done this. Trusting only in situations where verification can be exercised, may make sense when some heuristics apply. And sometimes deals that seem too good to be true (on a human level, when we know it isn’t explicit Christian charity) in fact, are.
“The toad being the smart one in the picture.”
You must be a liberal to make such a hateful statement, if not you are a POS.
“Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline shall drive it far from him [her].”
Sometimes people have to learn through bitter experience, or the bitter experience of others. I’m no exception, though I have not fallen in with illicit drug dealers or been murdered by them (obviously).
This is a messy world. We can not make it fundamentally neat. We can only impose a modicum of order.
We are forced by the Marxists to raise these sub-humans to kill us and our children.
Another hateful liberal troll shows his head to freepers.
That is why my house was never broken into. I guarantee you that two degrees away were thugs, guys he didn’t even know.
My best friend during and after high school was black. (Richard) He and I spent many hours over at each others houses, and I remember giving his nephew piggy back rides when he was little. They lived in the milder portion of what was regarded as a predominately black part of town. Two blocks away was ground zero for the bad sh*t, (Drugs, prostitution, shootings, etc.) but I didn't go down there or even near it except in broad daylight, and only by car.
Richard is now a Teacher and he and his wife earn a good living. I am the Godfather of his son Mathew.
Richard's nephew grew into a 250 pound monster of a drug dealer. I saw him many years ago but I have not heard how he fares recently.
But your point confirms with my experience. Good people often have contacts with bad people. Richard's older brother was also in the bad crowd.
I think some context obviously applies.
The problem is not always one of intelligence, but of wisdom. We sometimes think we’re smart enough to play around with evil and not get burned. And because of that illusion, we let evil charm us instead of sending it packing the moment it begins to charm us.
The toad might have been wiser, we could say, after having read the overall picture.
Why? What a despicable thing to say.
Shocking but wben you seek tbe company of vipers and hyenas you will be killed and eaten. Darwin Award contender.
This issue is one among many that I often contemplate. As someone I used to know said: "The law is a normative force."
There is a huge segment of "the herd" minded people who will go along with things because they are officially sanctioned. The fallacy of popularity is only a logical fallacy. Emotionally it is a very valid principle. Most people want to fit in, and will follow whatever ideas are considered proper by the majority.
Women are especially conformist to the the herd mindset.
Your point is whether or not there should be any compulsory Christian (or other religious) doctrine in governance. I can't really say if this is correct or not beyond noting that when there was, the USA was a lot more moral and behaved a lot more responsibly.
It might have, and yet do we want to rejoice in whitewash.
If an eternal score could be kept, one might question whether earthly good manners bespeak the currency of heaven, which is a soul bought by the Son. People can have sub-salvational walks before the Lord, where they are trying to look good enough to the Lord to earn a pass into heaven. This is a common parasitical philosophy in what we might call Christendom. Civic manners will improve; but souls furthered on their way to eternal heaven may not.
God might have good reasons to let the bottom fall out of a civic scene, when the cost of NOT doing so would be the cost of obscuring eternal truth.
Agreed. I have in my life had a lot more trouble with crappy white people than I have had with black. I know I could go find some trouble with them if I was looking for trouble, but this is not something any sensible person would do.
On encountering them, I treat everyone I meet with respect. I look them in the eye and I shake their hands. On the street, an upwards nod generally conveys the same sentiment.
I tried to tell anyone who would listen back in 1995 that we needed to get a black candidate. (At the time I was thinking Colin Powell. Boy was I wrong about him!)
I argued he would win in a landslide and we could advance conservative ideas because our candidate would have a mandate. It would have been the most fantastic Hail Mary pass we could have accomplished if we had only had the balls to do it.
And we picked Boring Bob Dole.
The Same vote dynamics that worked for Barack Obama would have worked for us had we had the sensibility to just see it.
How about phasers set to maximum!
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