Posted on 08/25/2016 5:04:25 PM PDT by annalex
Something strange is going on with the working class men of America. Many in this class of men are no longer working, and it is not for the lack of jobs.
As Charles Murray explains in White America while upper middle class men (and their wives) work more and more, working-class men work less and less to such and extent that we must insert those quotes the working class man, is now the working class man. This phenomenon has caught the attention of the White House and is said to have caused the rise of Donald Trump.
Both Murray and similar accounts confirm that although the collapse in traditional working class jobs is partly to blame, it is the collapse in working class culture that has driven this change.
In fact, an incredible 7 million American men between the ages of 25 and 54 are neither working nor looking for work. That amounts to 12 per cent of all men in those prime working ages and that doesnt count another 2 million who are looking for work but havent found it.
These numbers are staggering and have commentators from Left to Right in a flap. In fact, participation among prime-age men peaked in 1954, declined only slightly until the mid-1960s, and then began to decline in earnest in the decade between 1965 and 1975. Since then, participation has fallen persistently, with sharper declines in recessionary periods that were not fully reversed in the subsequent expansions, according to this official White House report.
So it seems just as women were liberating themselves from the prison of the home, working class men have liberated themselves from work. Perhaps unsurprisingly one liberation that of women has been celebrated, but the other is causing panic.
Ah, but my feminist sisters say, these men are just the new modern man. They are taking over childcare and home duties while their partners go to work. That was our grand plan it is all coming to fruition. Not quite.
Instead, these men are having a bit of me time. Theyre not spending any more time on child care or chores. Instead these men spend up to 10.5 hours a day on media in all its form. They are playing Grand Theft Auto is what they are doing.
This commentator views this as an ominous sign, the time and money these activities rob from relationships, work, and savings can hardly be overestimated.
What has caused this collapse in work ethic in the working class man it cannot be solely the draw of the gaming experience? What, now remind me again, happened between 1965-1975 in the US? Ah yes that was second wave feminism telling men how they were tying women to the kitchen sink while the husbands enjoyed the life of Riley outside it (The Feminine Mystique was published in 1963).
And the husbands were having a great time in the working world, were they are not? Here, Jack Arnold the patriarchal father in the classic Wonder Years, explains the fabulousness of it all to his son. I get up at five in morning. I fight traffic; I bust my hump all day. I fight traffic again and then I come home. And then I pay my taxes. The end. And Jack was middle-class - so you can just imagine what it was like for the working class man.
So should we really be surprised that the working class man says, you know, thanks but no thanks. What with welfare, he can just about make it through and no longer needs the often spirit crushing job he had to support his family.
Because this is something the feminists never thought through men can opt-out and survive. They will not thrive, and I think ultimately it is at great personal loss to themselves and others, but if they dont like the family and work deal offered, theyll just opt-out of both. They will not organise, they will not take to Twitter they will just socially withdraw.
The truth is since the 1960s the working class man has not only seen his economic prospects hit, but more fundamentally his position in society has been trashed. The status he had as head of the family no matter how menial and meaningless the job was on its own, had meaning and dignity as it sustained a family.
But this status has been gradually eroded over the decades, first by the feminists, who poured scorn on the husband who provides, then by the welfare state who said we can do this job better than you, and finally by the liberals who said fathers were surplus to requirements.
All of this spells disaster of course for the working class woman who is left scratching a living in low-paid jobs and welfare while holding the baby. This will cause the elite with their married dual career parents to pull further away, while the children of lone mothers fall further behind. And the liberals will continue to decry this inequality without ever grasping the fact that they caused it.
I know plenty that are so beaten down they beg for the gov handout just to survive
Lots of sweeping conclusions in the article and not much support. I'd bet this trend has been going on at least 30 years and has built up gradually as more and more manufacturing jobs that provided a middle class living were moved out of the US, or simply lost to cheap imports as tariffs were reduced or eliminated.
Not buying the author's "not for lack of jobs" claim. There probably are unfilled jobs in some limited areas, but nothing remotely approaching the drop of several million in the workforce participation rate.
If you have young sons, tell them to work hard and buy real estate. Rent out to welfare types who end up owning nothing. Collect the Govt checks then have their own family.
I retired at age 50 at the end of 1994.
Still doing just fine, thank you.
Not to worry, when Hillary gets us into WWIII, that problem will be taken care of.
Those are the types that trash houses and cost more in repairs.
I doubt that, as*h*le.
Raising men to be women doesn’t work.
should I start makin the popcorn ?
“I doubt that, as*h*le.”
So I have designed and built mechanical and electrical systems to control multiple hundred million dollar plants, I can spec all of the equipment, and figure out complex systems both on the mechanical and electrical side. I write the automation from the ground up. I can wire all the panels and motors and drives and field devices, bend the conduit, do basic welding. I design and deploy database systems and gateways linking all of the plant floor information systems and remote field devices connecting the whole shibang through SQL servers to the corporate oracle systems. I write statistical analysis programs, design hmi systems for operators. On the side, I design large database applications for medical groups. So yeah, i do design, electrical and mechanical for multimillion dollar manufacturing facilities. I can weld, I can wire, I can hang conduit, I can program the plcs that control the equipment, I can design the hmis, I can design the databases and connect them all corporate wide, I can write applications to process this data both in very old school languages and the new ones. I have done this in 20 countries in North and South America, the middle East, and Asia. What can you do, a$$hole?
None of your business, you hack electrician.
Take this job and shove it
I ain't working here no more
My woman done left and took all the reasons
I was working for
You better not try to stand in my way
'Cause I'm walkin' out the door
Take this job and shove it
I ain't working here no more
It's just that simple.
Relax.
You accomplish many aspects of the world of IT but I’ll be damned if you touch my stage 4 UPS.
Be proud of your work.
That’s a lot of stuff that you do, but what really won me over is your modesty.
None of your business, you hack electrician.
I am a mechanical engineer by education, though unlike you I actually respect electricians
It was the Lesbian feminists like Hillary who applaude this. Take away a man’s self worth and he will give up his status and also give up looking for a mate. This is Provides women for Lesbians to entice as their own mates along with more status and power. Usher in gay marriage and you have a recipe for replacing the male completely. Oh, and as far as children, there’s always adoption, one night stands or the sperm bank.
Sun Tzu
Not me, chump. I respect excellent electricians. Believe me, I’ve seen many shoddy electricians in my day. It’s almost common.
The answer is simple...end all welfare. Hunger has a way of motivating people to work.
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