Who said anybody was a saint? You really pulled that one out of your backside.
Just for the record, I grew up in a police family and helped train K9 dogs for law enforcement. I know what I am talking about.
Too many inner city minorities hate the police almost as much as they fear and hate the drug dealing gangs. One moment they are rousted by the drug dealers and the next moment they are rousted by the police.
Lousy schools, no real jobs except flipping burgers - and politicians who tell them it's the white man's fault - so the young males are trapped in gangs and drugs. They get their first drug arrest and their futures are caught in a vicious cycle - in turn they become vicious. Are those minority males lost? Probably, but that is up to God.
I say take the profit out of illegal drugs and you stop the cycle. (The point you just don't get.) Shipping the problem out to the suburbs doesn't work. Continuously locking people up doesn't work - unless you own stock in private prisons.
Why do you think police have no community support in the inner cities? Because these people are animals? Are they not God's children the same as you and I? You talk about these people like they are less than human. I think you need a little more Christianity in your thinking.
There are many blacks who do not live in the slums and are not criminals. Probably the great majority. None of my remarks are intended to describe them.
“I know what I am talking about.”
No, you don’t.
“Too many inner city minorities hate the police almost as much as they fear and hate the drug dealing gangs.”
Sorry, but you are not going to convince me that this is justified. Police, generally speaking, are decent men, not jack-booted thugs.
“One moment they are rousted by the drug dealers and the next moment they are rousted by the police.”
Are you really trying to put murdering thugs on the same moral plane with police? What are you, another “stealth” liberal who thinks that by pretending to be conservative he can get a hearing for left-wing crapola?
“Lousy schools”
And whose fault is that? Generation after generation, evil people force others to become evil; they deprive others of their education with impunity. Every effort to improve black schools is immediately trampled upon by—why, by “black leaders,” of course. Je$$e Jack$on, Al Sharpton, Calypso Louie, and others are always on the wrong side of this issue.
“no real jobs except flipping burgers”
For people with no education? What did they think was going to happen? When I was a high-school dropout, before I went to college, flipping burgers was the only job I could get, and I was glad to have it. Are they entitled to more because their skins are black?
“and politicians who tell them it’s the white man’s fault”
Now there you’ve identified an actual problem. Blacks should have gotten rid of the race-hustling poverty pimps before they ever gained traction. But they didn’t. They jumped on the “whites are the source of all evil” bandwagon instead.
“so the young males are trapped in gangs and drugs.”
Trapped by whom? By “the system,” or by other blacks? I don’t see white politicians putting guns to their heads. It’s black thugs who do that. I don’t see white politicians “turning out” young black girls. It’s black thugs who do that. How many white politicians do you suppose belong to the Crips and Bloods?
And “trapped by…drugs?” Do you know how many black criminals are first arrested for drugs, as opposed to assault, robbery, rape, or murder? You want people to believe that the war on drugs is mostly responsible for the behavior of these grotesque savages, but you have provided no support for that assertion.
It’s a blatant case of premise smuggling. If we accept that the reason they’re “in the justice system” is that they were arrested for drug possession, then we are accepting that the drug arrest—not the drugs, the arrest—is the cause of the crimes they go on to commit. Those two sons of Obunghole who kidnapped that girl, raped, tortured, and murdered her, then fed her to alligators, did all that because of their first arrest, which for your premise to be correct must have been for drugs. It’s ludicrous. And you go on to say:
“They get their first drug arrest and their futures are caught in a vicious cycle - in turn they become vicious.”
How many blacks with a marijuana possession arrest on their records are practicing law today? How many black doctors, entrepreneurs, and above all government bureaucrats got busted for pot as teenagers? Nobody has ever collected those data, but is it conceivable that the numbers are insignificant?
They are caught in a vicious cycle and become vicious because they are born into a vicious tribe. They are made vicious by the vicious savages who surround them, not by an arrest. An arrest is no trauma for them. Everyone they know has been arrested. Many of their role models have done hard time, are murderers, pimps, thieves. It is ridiculous to assert that an arrest causes their decision to embark on a life of crime.
You are correct when you say that it is very difficult for someone born in the slum to climb out, but not because they were once arrested for drugs. They have been shaped—by other blacks—into people uniquely fitted to survive in a unique environment, and not fitted for much else. It is also the racism that surrounds them. Not white racism; black racism, which persuades them that effort is futile, that the man be dogging them so evil is their only option.
“Are those minority males lost? Probably, but that is up to God.”
Satan has been playing a larger role.
“I say take the profit out of illegal drugs and you stop the cycle. (The point you just don’t get.)”
I have been debating that question since the 1960s, and have probably been on every side of it at one time or another. I “get” that proposition in ways you haven’t had time to think of yet. I have even seen it in action.
Making drugs cheap is a practical impossibility, because government is going to tax and regulate them, and that guarantees the continued existence of a black market. So, the first thing is, you can’t get what you want.
Even if you could, you might “break the cycle” of drug arrests, but you would not break the cycle of arrests for assault, robbery, rape, murder, or the bloody kaleidoscope of other crimes that comprise their behavioral repertoire. They’d still be making teenagers kill some random person for gang initiations. They’d still be forcing young girls to engage in depraved behavior. They’d still be pimping, robbing, raping, extorting, and destroying everything they touch. That their first arrest was not for drugs would not change a thing.
“Shipping the problem out to the suburbs doesn’t work.”
Why would it? Evil people do not repent because their address changes.
“Continuously locking people up doesn’t work”
Locking them up for what? Most places don’t even try people for minor pot offenses any more.
Now, if you are saying that things like pimping, robbery, rape, and extortion should be made capital crimes, and the guilty should be executed (now, not in 20 years), I can get behind that.
“unless you own stock in private prisons.”
Private prisons are an abomination. We need a constitutional amendment.
“Why do you think police have no community support in the inner cities?”
You, apparently, think it is because the police are such terrible people. I do not.
People tend to share the values of the societies in which the live, mutatis mutandis. One of the values of the slums is, “We hate cops.” That is the most significant single factor, by far. In addition, the aforementioned politicians and “leaders” play a role. There are a few other things, but none as significant as these two.
“Because these people are animals?”
No, because they are savages. Human, but not a part of human civilization.
“You talk about these people like they are less than human.”
No, I don’t. When somebody says something like that, he’s just trying to call somebody a racist without coming out and saying it. Anyway, it bears not at all on the validity of anything I’ve said.
“I think you need a little more Christianity in your thinking.”
And you need more study of Christianity. We are not enjoined to love sin or tolerate those who wreak great evils.