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Woman Speaks Out: I Saw a Gun Pulled on the Swimmers
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-speaks-witnessing-ryan-lochtes-210437444.html ^

Posted on 08/19/2016 8:04:43 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn

Bruna Castro-Ruiz, 28, says she saw part of what unfolded early Sunday at a gas station in Rio, as Lochte and his teammates headed back to the Olympic village. (She says she has already spoken to police about what she saw.) Lochte has said the foursome was robbed at gunpoint after stopping at the gas station on the taxi ride home – an account he has changed slightly from earlier versions given to media. But local police later told PEOPLE that one of the swimmers in the group was seen on security video allegedly damaging a bathroom at the gas station, and that the swimmers gave over their wallets as payment for the incident.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2016olympics; brazil; eyewitness; lochte; lochteeyewitness; olympics; teamusa
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To: TexasGator
Exactly what did Lochte lie about?

The video clearly shows a gun was pointed at someone in the car

I will give you that in his first account, he stated that they were "pulled over" in the car. In subsequent account of the event, exactly what did Lochte lie about?

Am pretty sure if you had a gun held to your head for 3 minutes by someone NOT in uniform and then told to get out of the car and told to get on the ground and forced to hand over money even you may not get all the facts correct.

This is exactly what some see this as . . . a third world pit hole playing their usual games also

21 posted on 08/19/2016 8:31:48 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: bigdaddy45; albertabound; rbmillerjr; originalbuckeye; PapaBear3625; Robert DeLong
Ping.

You people might find this further information interesting.

22 posted on 08/19/2016 8:35:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Uversabound

If you watch the time clock on the video closely, it jumps a few times - once it jumped a full minute. So parts of the tape are missing.

Did the gas station owner edit the tape?

Did the police edit the tape?

And people have stated they have seen video of the swimmers doing the vandalism - I must be slow, because I can’t find it.

I’m not prepared to condemn Lochte until the un-edited video is released.


23 posted on 08/19/2016 8:36:18 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: TexasGator
You accused me of ducking. I didn't. I told you the things I'm certain of. Lochte may have compromised his credibility. I'm not certain of that. I am certain that Big Media and turd world governments and "private security" thugs in turd world countries are dishonest, corrupt, and hate America.

You're hanging your ten-gallon hat on the word of known pathological liars. That's your call.

I'm not willing to do that.

24 posted on 08/19/2016 8:36:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
One of them even paid the Brazilian authorities $11,000 to drop the charges. It was a bribe no matter how you look at it.

This should be ALL the proof you need to understand that Brazil is a third (maybe fourth) world country!!

In Brazil, for NON-violent crimes, it is in their legal code that if you pay a "donation" to a charity (not sure who gets to pick the charity, but I doubt it is the person accused of a crime), then the charges are dropped.

You can call it a fee, a donation, a bribe, extortion, whatever you want, but knowing that this type of stuff is "legal" tells me all I need to know about Brazil - they are corrupt and the rich can do, and get away with, anything they want - PERIOD!
25 posted on 08/19/2016 8:36:52 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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To: TexasGator
Do you trust someone that got caught lying on national TV?

To what lie are you referring?

26 posted on 08/19/2016 8:37:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TexasGator
Had Lochte not lied on TV the whole thing would have disappeared.

To what lie are you referring?

27 posted on 08/19/2016 8:37:51 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: saywhatagain

He lied about:

Being sides wiped

Having a cooked gun put to his forehead

The timeline


28 posted on 08/19/2016 8:40:10 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: DiogenesLamp

See 28


29 posted on 08/19/2016 8:40:44 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthMountain

You ducked my direct question.


30 posted on 08/19/2016 8:42:06 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: saywhatagain
I will give you that in his first account, he stated that they were "pulled over" in the car.

The woman witness at the top of this thread says they were inside the Taxi and forced to get out. Being drunk to the degree they were, it is not unreasonable to believe they may have thought they had been "pulled over" when they were forced to get out of the cab.

Details can get kind of fuzzy when you've been drinking all night.

It is a trivial point if in fact it was a deliberate lie, but as it serves no real purpose in making a distinction about being "pulled over" to the significant facts of the case, I'll give them a drunken pass on that specific point.

The essential components of the case are demonstrated by the evidence that the Brazilian police have so far provided. They have yet to provide any evidence (beyond a ripped down poster) for vandalism.

One would think that they would put their stronger evidence for vandalism out there first... if they actually have any.

A ripped down poster? Is that the best you can prove?

31 posted on 08/19/2016 8:43:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TexasGator
I distrust him a lot less than I distrust Big Media, the Brazilian government, or a bunch of "private security" thugs.

How 'bout you? Do you trust Big Media? Do you trust the Brazilian Government? Do you trust a bunch of "private security" thugs in Brazil?

How 'bout it, Tex?

32 posted on 08/19/2016 8:45:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain
Your bullet points are spot on.

Between the Brazilian official corruption, complicit media, anti-Americanism, and manipulated video, Brazil is desperate to not have one more blemish on what was already considered a sloppy joke as far as hosting Olympics are concerned.

Furthermore, frankly, I believe there is a racial bias an component here. White fratboy types and this incident provided a politically convenient counter-balance to the BLM riots in Milwaukee.

33 posted on 08/19/2016 8:47:11 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: NorthMountain

I didn’t challenge your points.


34 posted on 08/19/2016 8:47:53 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: BobinIL

The Rio Police screwed-up

Once the swimmers were suspected of destroying that bathroom, the police should have arrested the American swimmers and thrown them in the Rio Jail.


35 posted on 08/19/2016 8:49:42 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: TexasGator
Being sides wiped

I am not familiar with this statement from him. Do you have a source that he said he was "sideswiped"?

But I will point out that my earlier point holds. A man that has been drinking all night may not realize that he hasn't been "pulled over" when he is forced to get out of a cab he is in. Perhaps someone banging on their cab windows could have been interpreted by his "drunk @$$ as being "sideswiped."

Having a cooked gun put to his forehead

I have no doubt that part is absolutely true. The video show them on the ground with their hands up, and the woman witness linked in this thread says that happened.

The timeline

What deviation of the timeline do you characterize as a "lie"?

So far you've got a pretty weak anchor on which to support the assertion that the athletes are lying.

A more credible position is that drunk people are fuzzy and their narrative of what happened tends to reflect their own fuzziness.

36 posted on 08/19/2016 8:50:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TexasGator
But your distrust of Lochte, in fact everything you know about Lochte, is filtered by Big Media, the Brazilian Government, Brazilian thugs, and questionable video.

Think about that for a while.

37 posted on 08/19/2016 8:51:26 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

No. My distrust of Lochte is him getting caught in a multitude of lies.


38 posted on 08/19/2016 8:53:01 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
But your distrust of Lochte, in fact everything you know about Lochte, is filtered by Big Media, the Brazilian Government, Brazilian thugs, and questionable video.

Think about it for a while.

39 posted on 08/19/2016 8:54:17 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: Timpanagos1
Once the swimmers were suspected of destroying that bathroom, the police should have arrested the American swimmers and thrown them in the Rio Jail.

Except for the fact that so far no evidence (other than someone ripping down a poster) has been presented so far to indicate that the bathroom was "destroyed."

Furthermore, drunken vandalism does not warrant the pointing of a presumably loaded gun at someone and eliciting the relinquishment of money.

The Brazilian police have released a video, which strangely does not show a damaged bathroom or any evidence of vandalism beyond ripping down a poster.

If they are going to allege vandalism (which is no justification for pointing a gun at someone) then they should establish that vandalism actually occurred.

40 posted on 08/19/2016 8:55:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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