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Donald Trump Explains His Obama-Founded-ISIS Claim as ‘Sarcasm’
New York Times ^ | 08-12-2016 | ALAN RAPPEPORT

Posted on 08/12/2016 6:11:44 AM PDT by ToxicMich

Donald J. Trump tried to quash the latest controversy engulfing his campaign, suggesting on Friday that he was not serious when he said that President Obama and Hillary Clinton were the “founders” of the Islamic State terrorist group.

After making the suggestion at a rally on Wednesday night, Mr. Trump doubled-down on the assertion on Thursday, insisting in multiple interviews that he really did mean it when he said that the president and Mrs. Clinton were responsible for ISIS. But in an early-morning Twitter post, Mr. Trump said that he was just being sarcastic.

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To: sockhead
I agree with you that ‘sarcasm’ isn’t exactly the right word here.

I could picture him saying, "So you think 'founder' isn't the right word. How about "enabler", "inspiration", "tool"?
41 posted on 08/12/2016 7:17:47 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Do you believe he was being sarcastic? If so, why do you believe it?

The MSM has executed a deft move in which it put itself in a pretzel hold and is still twisting chasing after Trump. So, he leads them on, they put another couple of turns in the knot, and then find they cannot breathe.

42 posted on 08/12/2016 7:17:51 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Sacajaweau

Removing troops from Iraq created the nessasary vacuum to create ISIS. We then gave Iraqi troops modern equipment which they promptly surrenderEd (And still surrendering) to ISIS.

We then forment an “Arab Spring” to overthrow governments in Egypt, Libya and Syria. We have the leader of Libya assassinated and ship his stockpiles of arms to ISIS in Syria exacerbating a civil war.

All of this creates a mass migration of civilians and jihadis into western Europe and the US.

Bumbling foreign policy or planned events?

ISIS = Taliban = Al Queda = Mujahideen...ect,ect.

The simple fact of the matter is the government cultivates these organizations to terrorize in order to sway public opinion.

The British used Native Americans and Hessians in a similar manner prior and during the revolutionary war.

This is what is called “low intensity combat” and “we the people” are losing.


43 posted on 08/12/2016 7:18:04 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: GilGil

Hope & Change...for islamists.


44 posted on 08/12/2016 7:18:50 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: ilovesarah2012

>> Do you believe he was being sarcastic? If so, why do you believe it?

He tweeted it. Also, it makes little sense the other way.


45 posted on 08/12/2016 7:21:27 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Trump-Pence 2016: No full-term Governors!)
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To: ToxicMich

Why?


46 posted on 08/12/2016 7:22:18 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Vinnie

Trump keeps the media guessing. Let them fill in the blanks. He still comes out ahead and Hillary is still ridiculed.


47 posted on 08/12/2016 7:23:13 AM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: ToxicMich

Trump was onto something but should have used a different word - ‘enabler’.


48 posted on 08/12/2016 7:23:13 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Lisbon1940

He is always “walking something back”. Why can’t he say something and stick to it? Walked back muslim remarks.

And why is his clothing line made in foreign countries?


49 posted on 08/12/2016 7:26:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Can’t really answer your questions. My point was that one can repeat the same sarcastic comment multiple times, so there is really no inconsistency between what he said yesterday and today. The media would have you believe that it couldn’t have been sarcasm since he repeated it.


50 posted on 08/12/2016 7:30:51 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Trump-Pence 2016: No full-term Governors!)
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To: grania

It took more than a vacuum. It took the supply of arms, munitions and perhaps even uniforms, food and cash. ISIS is clearly some government’s or governments’ construct. This is not a spontaneous uprising of raggedy stink hands.


51 posted on 08/12/2016 7:32:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (One party feigns virtue, the other flaunts its corruption. May God reward them both.)
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To: ToxicMich

Obama himself is a common proponent of this idea that US policy is the major creator of terrorists. I don’t know how he can deny that he has created these terrorists since he is after all the formulator of US policy.


52 posted on 08/12/2016 7:37:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Lisbon1940

I think that’s called pretzel logic. He’s beginning to come off as undisciplined and erratic. He needs to focus his attack and proceed


53 posted on 08/12/2016 7:40:48 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Photo taken at a Mexican resort.


54 posted on 08/12/2016 7:46:33 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Trump-Pence 2016: No full-term Governors!)
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To: NKP_Vet

Why why why
Why the 4am tweets


55 posted on 08/12/2016 7:48:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: atc23

>> pretzel logic

You may be right, but that’s better than no logic at all.


56 posted on 08/12/2016 7:59:28 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Trump-Pence 2016: No full-term Governors!)
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To: silverleaf

Well I think he knew if he didn’t back off this “founders of ISIS” nothing else would be covered. That’s the way the dishonest Clinton supporting MSM is, especially CNN. So here’s what I think he’ll do. He’ll say that they both enabled ISIS to grow into the monster it became and this was because they pulled out of Iraq. I tweeted him (maybe he’ll read it), and said “Ray Kroc didn’t “found” MacDonald’s, but he damn sure turned it into what it is today”. I don’t think Trump will back off saying they are responsible for turning the ME into a haven for terrorists. He’s right. They’re wrong. Ollie North had a great explanation last night on Hannity. He said if BO and Clinton hadn’t pulled out of Iraq that ISIS wouldn’t exist and then told the reasons why. Maybe Trump was listening.


57 posted on 08/12/2016 8:58:41 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: ToxicMich

He should not go on the defense. Double down on the truth.


58 posted on 08/12/2016 9:00:15 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: ToxicMich

Rudy Giuliani whom I consider to be one of the foremost authorities on terrorism has called them this for quite some time.


59 posted on 08/12/2016 9:16:58 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: mac_truck

No way?


60 posted on 08/12/2016 9:29:21 AM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~)
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