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Marine who was court-martialed after putting up Bible verse at her desk loses 1st Amendment appeal
Daily Mail ^ | 8/11/16 | James Wilkinson

Posted on 08/11/2016 5:50:45 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: dhs12345

Absolutely it does. The house is on Government owned and operated property. Think of it as the biggest Home Owner’s Association in the country, if not the world. While living in such a home, the tenant cannot willy-nilly decide to paint a giant American Flag that wraps around the house. As good as it may look to some, it would not conform to the standard Haze Grey or whatever has been selected.


21 posted on 08/11/2016 6:18:56 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: pfflier

There’s always somebody to push the limits of tolerance, so suddenly, everyone has more restrictions put upon them.
Being a ‘rebel’ in the military is very risky. There are fragile egos at stake, and some will try to get even by making life a little more difficult for the ‘Wild Thang’.


22 posted on 08/11/2016 6:22:17 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Libloather

She posted these in her workplace and was given a lawful order to remove them, she refused and there were other issues of insubordination.

She got what she deserved


23 posted on 08/11/2016 6:25:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather

God Bless and keep this courageous young Marine.


24 posted on 08/11/2016 6:25:59 PM PDT by teletech
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To: Libloather

Once you stand in the yellow footprints,you have no Constitutional rights. There is a reason the UCMJ is written as an ironclad dictatorship.


25 posted on 08/11/2016 6:30:21 PM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
a practicing muslim will get the same treatment for posting a verse of two from his little Quran from FEDGOV eh? /s

Since Islam is the defacto state established chosen religion of the US government, I think the Muzzie would get a pass. 😖

26 posted on 08/11/2016 6:38:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Mark17

I have no doubt in my mind that’s exactly how it’d play out


27 posted on 08/11/2016 6:42:29 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (*Convicted of thought crimes by the Left and the Right*)
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To: Secret Agent Man

UCMJ is what it is


28 posted on 08/11/2016 6:46:44 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Libloather

We Christians need to come up with some kind of garb that is protected....a headscarf with Scripture embedded on it somehow..or something.

No joke.


29 posted on 08/11/2016 6:53:09 PM PDT by Be Careful
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To: lee martell
So true. The "offender" was a O-3 that got riffed back to and E-5 and he was just occupying a seat so he could retire at the higher grade. He was the original role model for DILSWGAS.

And, you're absolutely right. Because of this clown, everything personal went, pictures of cars, dogs, wedding photos etc.

30 posted on 08/11/2016 7:10:48 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Libloather

So wrong.


31 posted on 08/11/2016 7:22:50 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Edward.Fish
My point is this: is a right that can be so lost really a right?

She started with the right to freely contract, and did so in order to get into the Marines. She traded her rights for privileges at that point, voluntarily. Properly stated, she had no rights at all in the Marines, of her own volition.

32 posted on 08/11/2016 7:27:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

The USSC has not always agreed with that. (Another reason why Trump makes more sense than Hillary.)


33 posted on 08/11/2016 7:30:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The USSC has not always agreed with that. (Another reason why Trump makes more sense than Hillary.)

Citations, please. There are no rights in the UCMJ. Officers can resign their commissions voluntarily, because their contract is an agreement to serve the Constitution. But enlisted agree to serve their officers and lawful orders, which is an agreement to a status of granted privileges and not rights.

34 posted on 08/11/2016 7:34:03 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Libloather

Her Remington Raider fearless leader does have the authority to
tell an E3 to remove gigantic garish strips of paper like that.
If she was more clever though, she should have found some quotes
from the likes of Archibald Henderson, John LeJeune, Chesty Puller
Howlin’ Mad Smith, Presidents, etc. put them up and have her CO
throw those in the trash. And NOT tell where they came from.
Her defense lawyer at the CM might have found that entertaining.

Anyhow, her big mistake was joining the Crotch to begin with but once
in you gotta play the game.

BTW, hey EVERYBODY the Pentagon is going to ban religious displays
like beards and turbans, right? There will be no rainbow displays
anywhere outside the 42nd Infantry Division, right?


35 posted on 08/11/2016 7:38:26 PM PDT by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I have no doubt in my mind that’s exactly how it’d play out

I have a feeling it probably has already played out like that. If it has, do you think the egg sucking dog libtards in the government, would publicize it? Probably not, and would make sure no one else did either.

36 posted on 08/11/2016 7:42:17 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Edward.Fish
A fair trial? Self-defense? Due-process?

As I read the story she didn't lose any one of those rights, she was able exercise each one.

37 posted on 08/11/2016 7:51:44 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: PJammers

>> When you are told to do something,

That something must satisfy the Constitution.


38 posted on 08/11/2016 7:53:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Libloather

It was a lot more than a bible verse

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/11/ex-marines-religious-freedom-claims-rejected-by-appeals-court.html

” Monifa Sterling, who was a lance corporal stationed at Camp Lejeune, N.C., was court-martialed for various offenses relating to separate incidents – including disrespecting a superior officer, disobeying lawful orders, and failing to report to an assigned duty.”


39 posted on 08/11/2016 7:59:08 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: Gene Eric

No it doesn’t. The military isn’t a democracy. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) is the governing authority. Insubordination is specifically addressed as a crime under military law.

This ex-marine should have done what she was told to do. Without question.


40 posted on 08/11/2016 8:12:06 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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