Posted on 08/11/2016 12:53:54 PM PDT by COBOL2Java
You clearly don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
Actually, I known exactly what I'm talking about.
Cops can be heroes, and often are. But they are not duty bound to be heroes. The law protects whatever they do, for the most part, and demands they do far less than what they actually do, for the most part. Law enforcement is highly discretionary - BY LAW.
Sorry if that pops your bubble.
I want you to put that thinking cap on and try to grasp different situations where police officers are called into situations that are clearly not safe for them.
Are they obligated to respond? You tell me. So far you are saying no. So the next time a multi-player shooting takes place, you tell me how many officers would still have their jobs if everyone refused to respond.
The officers here are trying to get the guy off the building. In a shooting situation they are also trying to get things under control safely.
I don’t think anyone else did, and I sure didn’t demand officers put their lives in harms way to get this guy off the building. I do think they have an obligation to try to get him off there safely.
You evidently don’t. After all, their lives are the only ones that are protected.
LOL
Now there’s devotion to duty...
Doesn’t pop my bubble at all. You’re full of s—t and we both know it. Well, perhaps you’re that far gone. I’m not.
A few years ago, a guy walked out into a shallow part of SF Bay. The water came up to his neck. He just stood there, about 70 feet from shore. Nonviolent, nonspeaking, clearly mentally ill. He was watched by cops, who didn't go get him, and who blocked others from getting him. Why? They determined it was unsafe to try, and they didn't have coast guard certification in boat rescues. So after a few hours, the guy collapses and dies of hypothermia.
Sorry bud, no duty to help. No charges against the cops, no laws violated. Zip.
Cops do what they want - and that's all they do. If they're heroes (and like I said, they often are) then it's voluntary (which makes them even bigger heroes, if you think about it).
That's just the way it is.
No, an officer doesn’t have an obligation to toss his life away in a stupid manner. However, you brought this up on the situation with a guy climbing the building as if the officers had no obligation whatsoever to respond and try to get the guy off the building.
That is clearly not true. They are known as first responders, and it is their duty to try to get this guy off the building. Once again, no one else did, and I didn’t either demand they do something stupid to get him off the building.
None the less, they do have to respond and do their best to get the guy off the building. And by golly, that’s exactly what these guys did in this instance.
I guess that kind of pops your bubble huh.
Yeah whatever. Enjoy your word games without me. Bye.
Agree. If he’s a nut, fine. Then he can be dismissed.
This source says he had several I.D.s on him.
Curiously, this guy’s parents were in Italy when he did this, according to the same link.
Weird stuff.... like the weird name coincidences of the Lincoln and Kennedy presidencies.
The climber changed his name to Michael Joseph Ryan before the climb, don’t know when or why. Attended Langley High School in McLean, VA [not kidding] before dropping out and getting his GED, was considered gifted before his grades started to slip when he was working on a ‘project’ possibly to start his own business...belonged to the Fairfax County Republican Club...when he did this his ‘parents’ were on vacation in Italy visiting Rome, Naples and Pompeii...
and this was in August 2016 when all kinds of intrigue was going on in Italy...
Look up the name he renamed himself.... Michael Joseph Ryan... first name that comes up [on Wikipedia fwiw] is an epidemiologist with WHO... older guy in his 50s:
Michael J. Ryan (doctor)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Michael Ryan
Born
Michael Joseph Ryan
1965 (age 54–55)
Sligo, Ireland
Education
M.P.H, MB BCh BAO
Alma mater
NUI Galway, UCD, Health Protection Agency
Occupation
Doctor and Executive Director, WHO Health Emergencies Programme
Years active
1980s-present
Michael “Mike” Joseph Ryan[1] (born 1965) is an Irish former trauma surgeon and epidemiologist specialising in infectious disease and public health. He is Executive Director of the World Health Organization’s Health Emergencies Programme where he leads the team responsible for the international containment and treatment of COVID-19.[2][3] Ryan has held leadership positions and has worked on various outbreak response teams in the field to eradicate the spread of diseases including bacillary dysentery, cholera, Crimean–Congo hemorrhagic fever, Ebola, Marburg virus disease, measles, meningitis, relapsing fever, Rift Valley fever, SARS, and Shigellosis.[4][5]
Speaking of the doctor not the climber...
He’s not just in WHO he is a Bill and Melinda Gates pro surveillance guy.
“Several I.D.s” seems a little much for a kid working at a garden center. He was climbing Trump Tower not trying to buy beer while his parents were away.
There's a guy who lives in Great Falls, Virginia named Stefan Halper.
They didn't get there in time? Darn.
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The Donald Trump supporter who caused a spectacle by scaling the side of Trump Tower in an effort to meet the Republican presidential candidate was identified by police sources as Stephen Rogata (previously known as Michael Joseph Ryan), the New York Daily News reports.
The climber’s identity was difficult to unravel because he had changed his name to Rogata and had an ID in that name but was previously Michael Joseph Ryan of Great Falls, Virginia, said The Daily News.
The day this guy climbed Trump Tower, was the same day Strzok and his associate Lisa Page exchanged an email about the murdered Seth Rich.
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