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Next president faces possible ObamaCare meltdown
thehill.com ^ | 08/11/16 06:02 AM EDT | By Sarah Ferris

Posted on 08/11/2016 10:45:56 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: SpaceBar

Yep, a mere way station to Single Payer.

I wish that idiot John Roberts would have understood that.


41 posted on 08/11/2016 12:09:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Red Badger

Trump is the only one who can handle it and turn things around. Period.


42 posted on 08/11/2016 12:22:31 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: dfwgator

John Roberts was TOLD how to rule..or else.


43 posted on 08/11/2016 12:26:27 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Mr. K

Democrats demand health not car, home insurance paid by your boss, because they are lying frauds.


44 posted on 08/11/2016 12:35:53 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: floozy22

Trump slander.

Trump does not believe in Govt healthcare. All his employees get private insurance. Another Trump slander.


45 posted on 08/11/2016 12:38:14 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: WMarshal

As BO’B found just after his first election win, those Tsunamis can be devastating. This next one will just happen to be on America’s soil rather than Japan’s.

The TSUNAMI will be named TRUMP and it will wash the countryside to rid the trash from every corner of our hallowed halls, our communities. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!

The time is now TRUMP TIME and the church bells are ringing, calling for the faithful to do the right thing. Make AMERICA Good Again.


46 posted on 08/11/2016 12:38:44 PM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: floozy22

You missed my point entirely. And spare me your boiler plate response that does not address the issue. We already have the other programs for the poor and the veterans, the issues there are mismanagement. But there are people out there that have no money and are too lazy to fill out a simple form. The governments of every state along with the federal government have made it mandatory that these people have to be taken care of when they show up to the emergency room. If the hospital cannot collect from the patent then they have to eat that cost. This is one of the big reasons that those of us that do pay have to pay so much. This is what Trump is trying to address, if you are going to mandate that a hospital treat someone, then you should be on the hook for the bill, not the hospital.


47 posted on 08/11/2016 12:39:23 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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To: chajin
What Trump will do depends on how much Congress is willing to work with him, and given the present GOPe, that is not an encouraging sign.

Have no fear! Senator Cruz will be a leader in the upper chamber and assist President Trump in overhauling our health care system!

Or on the other hand, looking to a 2020 campaign with an "I told you so!" message, he just might be the turd in the punchbowl and let Trump fail miserably.

48 posted on 08/11/2016 12:44:09 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: Red Badger

ObamaCare is melting down as I type, but the state controlled media will not report on it. Same story with the homeless.

5.56mm


49 posted on 08/11/2016 12:45:58 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: floozy22

“I believe in market-driven healthcare.”

I do as well.

We have Christian Healthshare and pay $325 a month for $500 deductible with unlimited payout.

We used it once and actually were only $390 out of pocket for a $7,900 procedure.

We were quoted $1,000 a month for a $10,000 deductible from Obamacare. If we were on Obamacare we would have been out $7,900 plus $1,000 a month.

This is a proof that government is wasteful and private industry is far more efficient.

Best!


50 posted on 08/11/2016 1:04:10 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: JoSixChip

“if you are going to mandate that a hospital treat someone, then you should be on the hook for the bill, not the hospital”

Payment could often be made at Medicare rates from Social Security accounts.

Tax refunds and Earned Income/Child Care Credits could be withheld and certain deductions (dependents, mortgage interest) barred until the Social Security account debit is fully reversed.

Earned Income (and Child Care) Credits could be placed in Medical Savings Accounts.

High-priced drugs might be required under federal law to be sold by hospitals on a consignment basis. The drug company would bill the patient (getting a clot-buster), so the hospital’s finances wouldn’t be hurt if a $5,000/dose drug wasn’t paid for by a patient.


51 posted on 08/11/2016 1:09:10 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Nip

“America’s healthcare system from a free market model”

There hasn’t been a relatively free market in healthcare for over 100 years.


52 posted on 08/11/2016 1:11:15 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Mr. K

“Replace it with MARKET-BASED reforms (get the government out of health care business)”

Article I Section 8

“The Congress shall have Power .... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;”

That’s where the government gets the power to issue patents that allow drugs to be expensive.

“And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers”

And that’s why the government is in the health care business via the PPACA to deal with the natural inclination of health insurers to refuse to sell insurance to people that need to have expensive drugs.


53 posted on 08/11/2016 1:21:29 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: JoSixChip
Sorry, I did miss your point.

This is what Trump is trying to address, if you are going to mandate that a hospital treat someone, then you should be on the hook for the bill, not the hospital.

Point taken. And it sent me back to Trump's website, which provides details on his healthcare reform, and it all sounds good.

54 posted on 08/11/2016 1:21:37 PM PDT by floozy22 (Paul RINO Ryan 2016: "In the bag for The Hag")
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To: Red Badger

Also aren’t there elements of the law that were delayed until after the election that kick in in 2017? Don’t now recall what they were but I remember reading aboUT them.


55 posted on 08/11/2016 1:24:22 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: TalBlack

Probably.............


56 posted on 08/11/2016 1:48:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: Cementjungle

“If Trump is president, the MSM will blame Trump for it all.....”

No, they’ll blame Bush. They won’t start blaming Trump until after he’s gone. And if he should not get elected, they’ll still blame Trump, or Bush, Reagan, Or Lincoln, or...........

red


57 posted on 08/11/2016 2:39:06 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Red Badger

Repeal and replace the ‘Rats ...


58 posted on 08/11/2016 4:47:55 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (FUHRC!)
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To: entropy12

You’ve planned or done well. Our same medical advantage plan has gone from 70 plus dollars to 520 each over the same time. Many of my medications (all generics) have gone up by 2 or 3 hundred per cent triggering a max out on prescription expense by October and with two medications taken off the prescription coverage list (formulary I think they call it). I’m not in good health by any means and am being kept alive artificially with medicines and other treatments. My exercise/walking is limited by physical deterioration. It ain’t fun but it’s better than the alternative.


59 posted on 08/11/2016 6:07:32 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JoSixChip
> "believed for a long time in government-involved healthcare." What do you propose? Leave people in the streets to die, or maybe make it a law that all healthcare providers have to provide their services and just adsorb the cost? Just curious. > Q1: By what authority?? As always, begin by rejecting the faulty\illogical premise. "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." ― James Madison As for the 'people dying in the streets' (another false presumption), one is *always* quite capable of acts of VOLUNTARY kindness; be that services, financial, material or emotional. It is quite another (illegal and immoral) to use force (aka govt) to do so.
60 posted on 08/11/2016 6:11:28 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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