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To: faithhopecharity
A LOT of jobs are being given to foreigners — a LOT.

Foreigners actually work very hard in order to gain the privilege to come here to work. Many American students are more party animal than student. I had trouble finding American born students who had taken appropriate course work in school for truly technical jobs. Sometimes the schools don't offer appropriate curriculum any longer. For example, few schools these days offer classes in C and C++, which are fundamental for "down to the metal" engineering. We either had to train newbies in C/C++ or hire the ones from abroad who already knew it.

Sure, it is not fair to paint with a broad brush. That being said, many American kids are more into playing video games and social media than about actual learning or experiences. They are Halo warriors, if you will. That is easily detected with a simple programming or electronics engineering test.

37 posted on 07/26/2016 3:04:10 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

My limited experience is that most USA students with MS Engineering from good schools have learned a lot of what is needed to work

not all of course

the party animals seem to concentrate in the liberal arts...
its damn hard to be a party animal when you got 100 pages of highly technical/mathematical homework to do each week, ha!
but yes, there are some MSE grads I wouldn’t hire, indeed have not hired.
I have knowledge of number 1 or 2 graduates of best engineering school(s) in USA...not even being able to get interviwed by local major engineering corporations that ARE hiring (but mostly from overseas)

and if you go out to SillyCon Valley (Palo Alto region) you will see half or more foreign workers in many of the firms there

even though they are right next door (some are right on the property of) major leading school of engineering

so... there IS a serious reason why many USA students decide against serious STEM studies..... when all is said and done, why knock yourself out for 5 or 6 or 7 years with the hardest study programs on campus.... only to wind up begging for some sort of sales agent or paper-pushing job (IF you can get one, even that can be difficult in Obama’s Great Depression)

but at any event, if you get a job it likely won’t use your training much... and will pay low too.....so you could have been a campus party animal taking sociology and ethinic studies!!!!!!!!!

so why not do that from the git-go, and save yourself 6 years maybe of strenuous STEM studies?


39 posted on 07/26/2016 4:08:17 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: GingisK

Defending the H-1b visa scam and cutting down Americans Go back to where ever you came.


42 posted on 07/26/2016 5:15:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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