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To: exDemMom

“DPS stated that Bland was arrested because she kicked Encinia.[21] She was charged with assaulting a public servant.[1] DPS said that she “became argumentative and uncooperative” during the arrest.[23] Officers took her to the Waller County Jail and placed her in a cell alone, because they said they deemed her a high risk to others.[9]”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sandra_Bland

“Yes, I really am dumb enough to believe that when an article says”

Yes, apparently you are.

I never said anything about my beliefs regarding failure to use a turn signal being as bad as anything.

You said- “Running a stop sign seems like a valid reason to pull someone over. Failing to use a turn signal is not.”

So if anyone has real issues, it’s you. How about you go out in your car and make some turns without signal in front of police cars, and see what happens as a result.

I really don’t even know what the purpose of discussing this is. The stop was legit. She broke two laws, got pulled over, proceeded to behave in a way that angered the officer, got into a fight with him and went to jail where she later killed herself.

The officer had nothing to do with her suicide. if his department determined that his behavior ill represented the department and subsequently fired him, fine. if further investigation reveals negligence on the part of the jailers, fine.

She took her own life. She is responsible for her death. That is all there is to it.


36 posted on 07/23/2016 1:55:48 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37

You don’t really have to be so rude.


39 posted on 07/23/2016 2:12:10 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: chris37
How about you go out in your car and make some turns without signal in front of police cars, and see what happens as a result.

I have no idea where you live, but I can guarantee that where I am in Maryland, where I lived in Texas, and where I lived in California, people were NOT, as a rule, pulled over for not using turn signals. People fail to use them ALL THE TIME. One thing I've noticed is that if the front car in a left turn lane has the signal on, the rest of the cars probably do, too. But if the front one doesn't, none of the others do, either.

When I'm on the freeway, I typically only signal when I have already started to change lanes. That is because when I learned to drive in the San Francisco Bay Area, I quickly learned that signalling that you want to change lanes is the quickest way to get the people in the next lane to close the gap that you wanted to enter.

The one thing I see people get pulled over for is speeding. The roads I use are actually pretty well patrolled by police. I see several of them every day, waiting for people to speed. And I mean really speed--they overlook if you are going just a couple miles over the limit. Which I do. In a 55 MPH zone, I drive 55-60, everyone passes me, I never get pulled over.

“Yes, I really am dumb enough to believe that when an article says”

Yes, apparently you are.

Immune to sarcasm, are you? When an article says something, I believe that the article says what it says. It certainly does not say something else. Wikipedia quotations aside, that article STILL says that she was pulled over (and brought in) for failing to use the turn signal. And, as I originally pointed out, I suspected that the situation was more complicated than the article said. The Wikipedia article actually proves my point, that the article was NOT the whole story and that she did indeed do something besides fail to use the turn signal.

And you have issues... you seem obsessed with turn signal usage.

42 posted on 07/23/2016 2:16:11 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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