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To: MeganC
You make all these sweeping statements about the police, and talk about them attacking "everyone," and whatnot. They're anti-police and don't match the statistics or the reality. 

The odds of someone who hasn't in some way provoked a situation by police are miniscule (and on that, it's important to remember that citizens have some obligation to be cooperative with police and try to avoid appearing to pose a threat to them, and it is prudent to do so). Someone is far more likely to be killed innocently in an automobile, or by another civilian with a gun, than by police.

On the case you mentioned with the botched SWAT team raid, I recall hearing about it, but didn't look too far into the details at the time. Here are some (CNN):

 A confidential informant hours earlier had purchased methamphetamine at the house, the sheriff said.

Because Thonetheva had a previous weapons charge, officers were issued a "no-knock warrant" for the residence, Terrell said.

When the SWAT team hit the home's front door with a battering ram, it resisted as if something was up against it, the sheriff said, so one of the officers threw the flash-bang grenade inside the residence.

Once inside the house, the SWAT team realized it was a portable playpen blocking the door, and the flash-bang grenade had landed inside where a 19-month-old was sleeping, the sheriff said...

The child's mother, Alecia Phonesavanh, told CNN affiliate WSB the family was sleeping at her sister-in-law's house when police arrived, and the grenade seared a hole through the portable playpen after exploding on the child's pillow...

In hindsight, Terrell said at the time, officers would've conducted the raid differently had they known there was a child inside the home, but there was no sign of children during the alleged drug purchase that prompted the raid.

The uncle of the injured infant was the one wanted by police on meth-related charges. 

The wanted man's mother was in the home (sounds like it was her residence), as well as the other family, which was just visiting for the night.

According to police, meth was actually sold in the house earlier in the day.

And then the playpen the child was in was pushed up again the door.

Incidents like this are partly why it's considered dangerous to harbor someone, even  a family member, involved in the drug trade. It also might have been someone else involved in that trade who showed up at this home. and the outcome could have been just as bad or worse.

It's a tragic situation, and whatever defense was put on saying outrageous things, if that's what happened, I've yet to see what those statements actually were, or that if they were that outrageous, weren't just the products of lawyers.

If you shoot someone because you’re in fear for your life and the person turns out to be totally innocent of anything then your ass is going to prison. Period.

That is an apple-to-oranges comparison in so many ways. The typical concerns and circumstances of a private citizen versus someone when they are operating as a police officer is very different.



212 posted on 07/26/2016 3:31:30 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

I’m not going to bother reporting my personal history for you but just let me say that I’ve been on the receiving end of cops who do what they want and then make shit up to justify it afterwards. I’m happy to now live in a state where we don’t have those problems but I know what they are when I hear it because I’ve been there.

And you feel free to suck up to these people all you want. The first time it becomes expedient for them to accuse you of something you didn’t do you’ll remember this exchange and maybe you’ll realize I was right.


213 posted on 07/26/2016 3:50:34 PM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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