[Dr. Sivana]

What I was addressing was that you seemed to be suggesting that there was irony in the fact that a behavioral therapist could not de-escalate a cop who was about to shoot him.

Yes, that was my point, but it was made somewhat in jest, and the matter is too recent, real and serious to make light of it. I am glad he didn't die.

[Sivad]

I considered the jest possibility but
didn’t want the unknowing to get the
wrong idea about the limitations of
behavioral therapists.