Posted on 07/20/2016 5:15:31 AM PDT by SatinDoll
Not sure if there is a 7-year peace treaty, if there is, it is probably just a piece of paper to Erdogan, just like Hitler seizing the rest of Czechoslovakia after getting the Sudetenland.
I think it was Will Rogers who said “Diplomacy is the art of saying ‘Nice doggie’ while you look for a rock”.
A B-61 is a pretty damn big rock.
The statement that we knew for years about the coming Pearl Harbor and WTC attacks negates any credibility this article had.
This article is complete and utter BS.
Incirlik AB (not AFB, a designation only used on US soil, the first of many errors) is a Turkish installation that they have agreed for decades to allow US and NATO to use for specific purposes.
Erdogan is settling scores with known, suspected, or just untrusted Turkish military across the country, to include Incirlik. US and NATO personnel are now caught in the middle of the purge.
Incirlik is too useful to NATO and the US to abandon unless the situation in Turkey descends into civil war. Erdogan is not so stupid as to move directly against US and NATO personnel. His focus is his real and imagined Turkish enemies. That this causes inconvenience to our folks is probably a bonus for him, but not his objective. He needs to consolidate power and prevent organized opposition.
As to nuclear weapons, the US government will neither confirm nor deny their presence. While the facilities exist for them, no one will say if they are there.
If they are there, commanders on the scene have inherent authority to defend US property and personnel with any means at their disposal. No one, to include the President, has the authority to order the surrender of people or weapons not under their control.
Which is why the Navy is hammering the leaders involved in the boat fiasco with Iran. The Coast Guard similarly hammered an Admiral and Captain in the ‘70s for allowing Soviet goons to capture a defector on a cutter. The Army did not prosecute Wendel Fertig and Russell Volkmann for disobeying surrender orders, promoting themselves, and organizing their own armies in the Philippines from 1942-45.
øbama’s wet dream....
The moron Turks probably damaged their power grid
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Ha ha ha! Okay.
When you shop for apples do you occasionally find yourself coming home with watermelons? Your examples relate about as closely to the present situation as do fruits with red skin and fruits with a green/white splotchy covering.
Again, this is complete nonsense.
There is no evidence the nukes have been moved at this point in time. Erdogan needs to reestablish his defense forces before he could make that move. Otherwise the Russians will just nuke the entire facility as the nukes are leaving.
Does Incirlik have electricity yet?
They have generator power to the priority buildings on base. Regular power has yet to be restored.
And fuel for the generators for 4 to 6 days is what I’ve read. Then what.
I think the Air Force would fly three or four cargo planes in....with ‘bladders’ of fuel and off-load. They could use a site just outside of Turkey to ‘fill-up’ and hot-land...just off-load and leave. If you did that every other day....you could just keep going.
But it just keeps basic operations going. It doesn’t really do much for all the guys sitting in the summer heat and no AC.
I think this is simply an ace in the deck for Turkey and getting the US to cough up this character in Pennsylvania...over to the Turks. You get the power back, once you hand him over.
Evidently, they don’t recall the Berlin Airlift.
What’s going on in Turkey is beyond insane. If other countries don’t condemn the atrocities, and do whatever kind of actions they can do, there will be killing fields.
And the US has just said they won’t extradict Gulen, who has of course given huge $$ to Hitlery and plenty of $ to other US politicians and a lot of followers in the US. He’s just as odious as Erdog.
I think Erdogan knows they won’t hand him over. So, it’s going to be played out like some poker game. He even knows that thousands of students will have to relocate or leave the country for university seats because he’s dumped enough professors that there will only be marginal seats in the fall. With them out of the country....no riots.
Brilliant play on all levels. He won’t even execute anyone, but he’ll take about it for three months and get everyone hyped up. It’s like some Latin America banana republic TV show.
What makes you think he won’t execute anyone? I’ve seen photos of rooms and a barn filled with men in their underwear, military, injuries. They’re being tortured. I saw pictures of “citizens” while the police looked on, beating, torturing and then killing soliders in Istanbul. throwing the dead bodies into the Bosporus. I saw piles of dead young soldiers, beaten and tortured to death. Heads cut off. This was the first night. I read the soliders just surrendered, and were heard to say “This is an exercise”. They had no idea what was going on.
Someone sat down and looked at a lot of the pictures used by state media on Saturday. I think it was a Brit sight. Then they checked and found at least six photos which weren’t from Fri or Sat, but two and three years prior. The photo of the Turk soldier with the head deal....that was from Syria.
I think a lot of this was orchestrated and planned out. You don’t come up with 50,000 names of university folks or prosecutors in a single day. That list was being built months ago.
A lot of this is planned out. For example, with the 15,000 professors or instructors gone...how will you run the fall semester coming up? Answer, marginally if you do run it. So thousands of these students will evaluate going elsewhere for college....outside of Turkey....maybe even the US. With them gone, they won’t riot.
Even for Incirlik, they will keep the power off for several weeks and try to hint it’s tied to getting the nut from Pennsylvania back. They don’t care if he comes back or not....it’s showing power in the hands of Erdogan.
He’ll even screw with the EU now because he knows they won’t give him entry into the EU or the free-visa deal.
The only card on the table which would really flip the game over is for the EU to declare Turkey a dangerous place and stop tourism (40-to-50 million tourists a year, and half from the EU). That would really hurt their economy.
I think it was totally orchestrated and planned out. He had lists at the ready of enemies to oust.
I don't see any alternative other than total collapse of Turkey. Hopefully an actual coup/civil war may take out the mad dog.
Here's one feed, with two of his comments, he appears to be on Erdog's side basically, if you read his other messages, so he is definitely not biased against Erd:
https://twitter.com/SelimKoru
Selim Koru @SelimKoru
Analyst, writer on Turkish politics & economics @tepav. Tweets mostly in English, occasionally in Turkish. Bylines @ForeignAffairs @WarOnTheRocks
Selim Koru @SelimKoru 13m13 minutes ago
Ankara, Türkiye In a nutshell: Turkey's state of emergency gives the executive extraordinary powers it needs to extract Gülenists from state institutions.
Selim Koru @SelimKoru 2h
More than 1,000 military personnel have deserted & fled, according to Deputy PM Şimşek. This is only the beginning.
https://twitter.com/hasansari7
https://twitter.com/hasansari7
https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint
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