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To: Kaslin

Liberia and 1990s Cambodia are good examples of libertarian societies.


2 posted on 07/06/2016 4:50:29 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

dead on accurate.


13 posted on 07/06/2016 5:51:29 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Liberia and 1990s Cambodia are good examples of libertarian societies.

As was the United States prior to 1913-02-03.

19 posted on 07/06/2016 6:25:24 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

that is used a lot as a soundbite but they really arent.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/key-concepts-libertarianism

its a common misconception that there is no laws, there are but the goal is a set of laws that apply equally across the board. property rights would be a major requirement.

also a lot of people think government standards are required, they arent, for example the IEEE standards organisation and thats one among many.

the view that they are pro immigration is half the coin. the idea is that there should be no social welfare, thats on you and your family, neighbours and friends. the main driver for immigration is benefits, illegally taken from you as taxes. thats the other side of the coin. you cant allow immigration until the reasons for illegal immigration are removed, then the people who arrive are there for the betterment of themselves and society.

the drug issue is also a 2 sided coin. there wont be taxes for drug help or support or government agencies. you want to take drugs, knock yourself out just remember you are on your own when you become a down and out. same goes for the fatties, the smokers, the drinkers. so long as you are interfering with my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...go for it...but when you fail..i aint paying.

its at this point the ‘what happens the poor’ arrives. look if you are worried about the poor, take your wages and do something. meet others and make a charity for what you care about, others can do likewise. the dirty secret here is charities do better and get more when government isnt there. Go look at the state of Haiti to see how governments work.

on guns and war? well on guns, its part of your life and liberty. there will be police but the onus is on you to protect yourself. on war, if you want a war — everyone (AND I DO MEAN EVERYONE) will pay extra in taxes to support the war. that means the war will be short, sharp and to the point. there wont be a lot of ‘lets build schools’ afterwards. your goal in a war is to win to solve the issue that could not be solved. you are not there for the betterment of your enemy. also there will be taxes but it would be a flat rate for EVERYONE. EVERYONE pays one rate on your earning. you will hear the amount of 6% used in a lot of liberty circles. thats pays for a minimal government, an army and a police force (altho some feel the latter should also be private). there would be no dept of education, health, social services, welfare etc etc etc. if you want a school for your kids, you pay for the best you can afford. if you want cancer care you pay for the best you can afford, AND YES the multi millionaire will get better treatment so stop whining. the drive for things like competition, real money (aka gold etc) will drive healthcare costs lower and lower. even your fire brigade would be paid when you use it. At one point in America multiple fire brigades would arrive at a fire and you haggle for the best price. you had a contract, you put out the fire, i pay.

as with all political views, there is the normal and the insane and all levels in between. what the press normally delivers is the image of the moron dancing in his underwear. the idea is people will naturally formulate a set of rule and regulations that suit society. the US Constitution is a near perfect example of what Liberty can achieve. the idea that Liberia or Cambodia represents it == not so much.

just my opinion obviously.


23 posted on 07/06/2016 6:38:37 AM PDT by Irishguy
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