[DiogenesLamp]

The Lincoln movie was a joke at best

All the movies about Lincoln are propaganda meant to justify his actions. I've never been much concerned about the Civil War, but I have been researching it this last year, and I've discovered it was not fought over slavery, it was fought over who was going to control the profits created by slavery.

New England was making a fortune off of Slavery, and an independent south threatened that money stream. What tipped me off to the real story is this map created by a anti-confederate website. (deadconfederates.com) It was a real eye opener.

See that pile of coins on New York? Those are the tariffs collected on European trade, so the dollars that went through the New York economy were much greater than that pile of coins indicates.

3/4ths of that money came from Slavery. When the South moved for Independence, the bulk of that money would be lost to New England, and *THAT* is why the power brokers of New England pushed Lincoln into launching a war to stop the South's move to become independent.

Southern independence threatened too many rice bowls of powerful men.

The "We were fighting to free the slaves!" spiel was just propaganda to misdirect the dupes regarding their real reasons. Lincoln clearly stated he was not going to end slavery if the Southern states would stop fighting and rejoin the Union.

Of course he wasn't going to end it, because his New York backers wanted to get that money stream going again, but after awhile, it became impossible to restore things to the way they were. They had spread that propaganda for too long, and now it was expected that they would live up to it.

[drjimmy]

Those are the tariffs collected on European trade, so the dollars that went through the New York economy were much greater than that pile of coins indicates. 3/4ths of that money came from Slavery.

Are you really claiming that 3/4 of the tariffs collected in New York in 1859 came from the slavery trade, which had been abolished more than 50 years earlier?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

The first time I realized the CW was not all about Slavery was from an old 1950 movie STAGE TO TUSCON in which two men get in an argument about the coming break up of the union.
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Man 1: Are you an Abolitionist?
Man 2: I don’t have no SLAVES!
Man 1: Well what about all those WAGE SLAVES and TARIFFS in the North!
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Wage slaves? Tariffs? I thought the war was to “free the slaves” in the South as that is what I had always been taught in History class!

[stockpirate]

thanks for the info, the best book to read on the Civil War is “Battles and Leaders of the Civil War” a 4 volume set about 800 pages each book. It is comprised of articles written after the war by the very people who were in the various battles on both sides. It is considered to be the foremost work on the subject IMHO and others.

[Vigilanteman]

Interesting map, but there would be no tariffs on imported slaves after 1808 because the trade was illegal by then. See Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution.