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Philly’s “Soda Tax”: Not Popular, Not Fiscally Sound, Not Legal
Townhall.com ^ | June 28, 2016 | Jerry Rogers

Posted on 06/28/2016 12:16:32 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/28/2016 12:16:32 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Yes, the tax is unpopular – 58% of residents oppose the measure. Yes, the tax will disproportionately harm poor residents

Trump's fault.

2 posted on 06/28/2016 12:18:04 PM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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Same reason I oppose LePage’s soda ban.

Politicians of the Left and Right need to stop micromanaging our lives.

We don’t need to be treated like children. My freedom to make bad choices is part of being American.


3 posted on 06/28/2016 12:18:54 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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Didn’t they try this in NY?


4 posted on 06/28/2016 12:20:15 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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How does Philly get away with their “city wage tax”?

This is a 3.5% (if I recall correctly) levied on anyone who works or lives within city limits.

Doesn’t this tax also violate the state’s preemption clause?


5 posted on 06/28/2016 12:20:47 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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Not to support this tax in any way, but the supposed intent of the tax is meant to discourage consumption due to high prices. Thus, the “regressive” nature of the tax that is so “unfair”, is exactly what the architects designed.


6 posted on 06/28/2016 12:22:47 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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No, the tax is not legal – experts are calling the tax unconstitutional.

Since when has that ever stopped them?

7 posted on 06/28/2016 12:23:00 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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Obamacare rate hikes, soda tax in PA, gasoline tax in NJ...the real economy never recovered from 2008; this may well send us over the edge.


8 posted on 06/28/2016 12:24:20 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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Mind you, if the actual intent of the tax is to impose a regularly recurring consumption based tax on those with a psychological addiction to soft drinks just to raise tax revenues, then they’ll readily achieve their purpose. Just like lottery tickets.


9 posted on 06/28/2016 12:25:28 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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There is no one that can tell me what soda I can not drink. If I feel like drinking a certain soda, I will do so.


10 posted on 06/28/2016 12:27:03 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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The Kennedys got rich bootlegging alcohol. Maybe a new generation of ‘statesmen’ can get their start bootlegging sodas.


11 posted on 06/28/2016 12:29:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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a psychological addiction

Coca-Cola doesn't use Coca leaves for the flavor. http://www.naturalnews.com/032658_Coca-Cola_cocaine.html

12 posted on 06/28/2016 12:34:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: ConservativeWarrior

“How does Philly get away with their “city wage tax”?

This is a 3.5% (if I recall correctly) levied on anyone who works or lives within city limits.

Doesn’t this tax also violate the state’s preemption clause?”

No, this is how Pennsylvania works. I don’t like it, and I’m leaving as soon as I can make a plan happen. Because PA is a nice place, but if you’re struggling with money then this place will finish you off.

Their DMV is setup to prevent anyone without $4000 in their pocket from ever driving. Their income tax is sly.

PA has a state income tax that’s pretty low. And lots of people may get tricked into moving here because of it. But then, from the shadows come a local income tax.

All of PA has 3% local tax from your income. Scranton, Philly, Pittsburgh have 5 or 7 percent tax.

So you pay federal, state and local. The nice thing about this is that this percentage of taxes stays in YOUR area. I live in the most expensive county in the state and half of what I was paying in CT in income taxes (state and local taxes equal what I paid in CT state taxes alone) go to my schools, my towns, and my municipality.

If you don’t pay these taxes the sheriff WILL be there, that year, to take your registered car. That’s why PA is so strict on registration - the state uses your registered property as leverage unceremoniously.

PA state has an extensive list of “Sheriff’s sales” where you can find nice homes for $2000. Well, the key is that the homeowner didn’t pay $2000 in taxes that year. So if you don’t pay these taxes, the town immediately seizes your stuff and tries to sell it. Of course, about 99% of these sales are just to get the attention of the land owner.

I grew up in CT, NJ, PA, NH and lived as a young adult in CO. None of these states are the states that I remember. They are all now enemy territory. Places where government have created systems designed to keep it’s people poor and non-threatening.


13 posted on 06/28/2016 12:35:14 PM PDT by Celerity
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Hey , I got a warehouse just outside town ,No Tax


14 posted on 06/28/2016 12:36:41 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: ConservativeWarrior

http://www.phila.gov/Revenue/taxpro/Pages/rates.aspx


15 posted on 06/28/2016 12:37:38 PM PDT by EEGator
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I live in East Goshen township, PA. My local taxes are 1%. My state taxes are 1%. Property taxes are about $5k a year for a good sized single family home on about 2 acres.

Though I work in a different township, and pay those local income taxes, they are actually routed back to my local township, so I only pay one local tax. 1% total.

But if I took a job in the city, I’d pay the city wage tax on top of local taxes. That’s why there are so many business parks just outside the city limits. I’m happy to let the city starve.


16 posted on 06/28/2016 12:44:17 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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Politicians of the Left and Right need to stop micromanaging our lives.

They use their caring and concern to justify their revenue streams. It's just for cover. The media helps them. Media, celebrities, and politicians all live in the same gated communities and they all think alike.

17 posted on 06/28/2016 12:45:16 PM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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NJ’s new gas tax is also going to be very unpopular come this Friday. 23 cents per gallon. Sure hope that does not include heating fuel or I will be paying an extra 115 dollars just in taxes to fill up my tank for the winter.


18 posted on 06/28/2016 12:45:23 PM PDT by mware
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Back in the 60s I worked at an auto plant in Ohio. There were always guys in the parking lot at shift change selling low tax cigarettes from Kentucky out of their car trunk. And that was when the price difference was in pennies.

I can see the same thing happening in Philly. Retailers will see their volume plunge and not just on sodas. People will buy all their other stuff where they can get the low tax soda.


19 posted on 06/28/2016 12:45:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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They’ve got their hands in everyone’s pockets.

I avoid the city like the plague. I wouldn’t work there for any wage.


20 posted on 06/28/2016 12:46:01 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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