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The US Constitution lists only enumerated powers. Its purpose is to restrain the government. Over the years, the ever-expanding "general welfare" and "commerce" clauses have allowed government to expand its powers to regulate medical care. Should government allow a licensed medical care provider to politely decline to provide an otherwise legal service, that would allow "discrimination" and "denial of service." Of course government cannot allow that no matter how much that destroys religious liberty and freedom of association, the very things that the Founding Fathers constituted government to protect. A government founded on liberty has itself become hostile to liberty. It has enslaved pharmacists. It will soon enslave all of us. #BakeTheCake
1 posted on 06/28/2016 8:31:33 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Kennedy on the rampage again.

I’m starting to think that Leftists really did kill Scalia. Then they pulled Kennedy into a dark alley and said “play it our way, or you’re next!”


2 posted on 06/28/2016 8:32:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: theBuckwheat

8 Black robed “Gods” rule and millions suffer for it.


4 posted on 06/28/2016 8:36:08 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: theBuckwheat

So, someone with a dime store education (as in a law degree) can tell someone with a REAL education (pharmacy) what their beliefs are?

How long do we take this before we say “ Try and do something about it *sshole.”?


5 posted on 06/28/2016 8:36:34 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: theBuckwheat

We need to start seeing lawsuits against muslims who refuse to do their jobs because they involve “forbidden” things. Let’s see how well this ruling holds up when one of the Left’s morality pets is the target.


6 posted on 06/28/2016 8:36:48 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: theBuckwheat

a very wise pharmacist that I know said that she would very apologetically tell the customer that she was all out of [whatever-it-is].

problem solved.


9 posted on 06/28/2016 8:40:09 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: theBuckwheat

The Supreme Kort is lopsided and needs to be readjusted to place it in accord with the Constitution. The lesbians and the old crone need to be removed. Kennedy and Roberts aren’t trustworthy. Roberts, on the face of his Obozocare fiasco, might be a little crazy.


10 posted on 06/28/2016 8:40:31 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and Slinkys: Good for nothing but make you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Soap box is now heavily restricted.
Ballot box is now heavily compromised and ignored.

I am very worried about what recourse is left.


11 posted on 06/28/2016 8:42:16 AM PDT by Tupelo (we vote - THEY decide.)
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To: theBuckwheat

How can they enforce this ruling on an independent pharmacy? Couldn’t the pharmacy simply claim that they do not carry such products?


12 posted on 06/28/2016 8:44:00 AM PDT by oblomov (We have passed the point where ‘law,’ properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: theBuckwheat
The US Constitution lists only enumerated powers. Its purpose is to restrain the government. Over the years, the ever-expanding "general welfare" and "commerce" clauses have allowed government to expand its powers to regulate medical care.

Unfortunately this only applies to Congress and the federal government. In the Constitution the states have plenipotentiary power over all things not delegated to the federal government or prohibited to them. Under the present understanding of the First Amendment I would argue that the actions of Washington state are a violation of its Free Exercise clause, not a violation of the enumerated powers.

13 posted on 06/28/2016 8:44:42 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: theBuckwheat
The US Constitution lists only enumerated powers. Its purpose is to restrain the government. Over the years, the ever-expanding "general welfare" and "commerce" clauses have allowed government to expand its powers to regulate medical care.

Actually, what happened in this case is that the State of Washington (one of the fifty states, not the federal government) is requiring all pharmacies in the State of Washington to sell these contraceptives. The pharmacy has been asking the Federal Government (the federal courts) to protect the pharmacy from the state government and its rules. The Federal Government (the U.S. Supreme Court) refused to interfere with the state government's rules.

In other words, this is not a case in which the U.S. Government is exceeding its powers. It is a case in which the U.S. Government is refusing to interfere.

19 posted on 06/28/2016 8:49:34 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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Your false "religion" does not supercede my Christian beliefs.

FUSCOTUS!

(Oooh, that wasn't very Christian of me)

20 posted on 06/28/2016 8:50:03 AM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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“The limitation to federal officeholders was mooted by the Supreme Court in the 1961 case, Torcaso v. Watkins. Relying upon the First Amendment religion clauses, the Court struck down religious tests for any public office in the United States. Not even a simple profession of belief in God—as was required of Roy Torcaso, an aspiring notary public—may now be required. Torcaso thus totally eclipses the Religious Test Clause of Article VI. The scope of an individual’s immunity from disqualification from office on religious bases now depends upon the meaning of the Establishment and Free Exercise of Religion Clauses, not upon Article VI. Because the First Amendment’s breadth is as wide as all government activity, questions about the precise meaning of ‘office of public trust’ are also moot. Whether the Religious Test Clause by itself extends to Members of Congress or all the way down to postal workers no longer matters—save perhaps to historians.”

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/6/essays/135/religious-test


25 posted on 06/28/2016 10:04:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: theBuckwheat

We need a Constitutional judicial amendment:

1. the jurisdiction of federal courts shall be limited to cases where the federal government or a foreign government’s US accredited diplomat is either the plaintiff or a defendant.
2. The District of Columbia shall be part of Maryland [so DC residents will have a court system]
3. a state judge may be removed immediately by a 75% or more vote of a legislative branch of the state
4. any judicial action based on any activity in the state may be voided by a 60% or more vote of a legislative branch of the state
5. a. No judge or judicial body or judicial action may in any way usurp the spending power of an elected government
b. no judge serving any state shall cause the expenditure of money from a state or political subdivision except as exactly specified by detailed petition of the state legislature which includes a maximum total of money to be spent and any such judicial action shall be limited to the current fiscal year
6. all consent decrees or like involving a government or public entity created under law shall be forever void and none may be entered into
7. fines and court costs assessed in total at any time shall not exceed the average income of a punished person for two months over the past five years (based on tax returns filed) or 300 times the state’s hourly minimum wage, whichever is more
8. the appointment of counsel paid by government funds now required by Amendment VI shall be limited to capital cases and cases with charges with the total potential of imprisonment for more than a year


26 posted on 06/28/2016 10:07:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: theBuckwheat

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The US Constitution lists only enumerated powers. Its purpose is to restrain the government. Over the years, the ever-expanding “general welfare” and “commerce” clauses have allowed government to expand its powers to regulate medical care. Should government allow a licensed medical care provider to politely decline to provide an otherwise legal service, that would allow “discrimination” and “denial of service.” Of course government cannot allow that no matter how much that destroys religious liberty and freedom of association, the very things that the Founding Fathers constituted government to protect. A government founded on liberty has itself become hostile to liberty. It has enslaved pharmacists. It will soon enslave all of us. #BakeTheCake
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IMO, the debate was lost once govt was allowed (wrong verbiage) to regulate medical care...ala ‘licensed’ XYZ. Look at the ever growing list of the same...BARBERS, interior decorators, DAY CARE (aka parenting/baby-sitting).

We need a return to Free Markets, word of mouth and tort reform.

How a CLAUSE can supersede the whole of the statement is beyond the pale. Govt, here’s your DEFINED list of ‘can do’...yet ‘general welfare’ and ‘commerce’ make them moot?? While ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ are ignored to do the same expansion (while strictly laid out verbiage ala 1st/2nd/9th/10th) are completely ignored.

Only to lawyers and politicians (I repeat myself)


27 posted on 06/28/2016 10:09:59 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: theBuckwheat

emergency contraceptives hahaha


29 posted on 06/28/2016 1:37:38 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (HAHAHAHA)
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To: theBuckwheat

Why couldn’t it have been Kennedy instead of Scalia?


31 posted on 06/28/2016 7:05:56 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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