The thing is ...Hillary is supposed to be the expert on Saul Alyinsky....she corresponded with him and wrote her (hidden) masters thesis on the Alyinsky rules.
Trump is using Alinsky Rules No 12 and 5 against Hillery with devastating effect.
Trump Rules.
The first debate. Dr BEN mentioned Alinsky
Immediately following Trump completely handled a question in the Alinsky style Carson was grinning like a Chelshire Cat.
Those who know the techniques know he not only know but has mastered them