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Senator Jeff Sessions Looks To Blast A Giant Hole In The 4th Amendment For 'Emergency' Response
Techdirt ^ | 06/08/2016 | Mike Masnick

Posted on 06/08/2016 11:51:50 AM PDT by Cyberman

Yesterday we wrote about an already troubling attempt by Senator John Cornyn to attach a dangerous amendment to the Senate's ECPA reform bill that would massively expand what kinds of electronic communications the FBI has access to (as we noted, the FBI already pretends it has access to this very info, so really this law would be papering over the FBI's illegal collection of this info). But there's another amendment, put forth by Senator Jeff Sessions, that is just as, if not more, troubling. It's basically creating a massive loophole in the 4th Amendment, saying that any and all basic oversight can be tossed out the second the FBI declares the situation to be an "emergency."...

As we've discussed, back in April the House voted unanimously to fix ECPA. And while the Senate has dragged its feet until now, it's disappointing to see Senators like Sessions and Cornyn now try to attach dangerous amendments to ECPA reform that basically destroy whatever good that is in there. Both of those Senators should be ashamed...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; jeffsessions; session; tyranny
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To: The Continental Op

You are thinking small. This isn’t for one crime, to search one house. This is a bomb goes off in Boston, so we seal the city, and search every house without a warrant, we seize any electronics we want,,,etc etc...


21 posted on 06/08/2016 12:26:02 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Cyberman

I’m not ready to knee jerk over something “Techdirt” claims.


22 posted on 06/08/2016 12:28:05 PM PDT by proust (Trump/Sessions 2016!)
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To: central_va

Maybe you should “Clam down”. It does not need a judge. Under the illegal “National Security Letter” authority they do not involve a judge. And everyone is threatened to keep it secret.

Furthermore if the sparrow generously farts and they decide to get a warrant. It is in a secret FISA court.

The fact is that all this secrecy is indeed diametrically opposed to everything that was America. Widespread surveillance, secret courts enforcing secret law. It’s crap no matter how you spin it.


23 posted on 06/08/2016 12:31:31 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: proust

This isn’t a judgment call. Either Cornhole and Session introduced those amendments, or they didn’t.


24 posted on 06/08/2016 12:32:47 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino

Right. All you have to say is “get a warrant”, anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that.


25 posted on 06/08/2016 12:32:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DesertRhino

Sure it’s a judgement call. All of these things are open to interpretation. There was no Internet when the 4th was signed in.


26 posted on 06/08/2016 12:34:51 PM PDT by proust (Trump/Sessions 2016!)
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To: Carl Vehse

B U M P


27 posted on 06/08/2016 12:35:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: DesertRhino
And I cant prove it, but I just have a sense that something about being in that wheelchair has made him a trustworthy man.

I think it depends on what you are starting out with, and of course the Grace of God. I don't see the same trustworthiness in Charles Krauthammer, despite his intelligence.
28 posted on 06/08/2016 12:38:02 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Exactly, or Stephen Hawking for that matter.


29 posted on 06/08/2016 12:39:50 PM PDT by proust (Trump/Sessions 2016!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Sessions has a good reason to support this. Hopefully we will learn what it is in due time. I trust Sessions.


30 posted on 06/08/2016 12:55:21 PM PDT by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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To: Cyberman
Special report: America's perpetual state of emergency The US has been in multiple "states of emergency" for decades.

An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later.

The first thing every incoming president does is renew a bunch of "state of emergency" declarations, which provide the continuing authority for much of governmental power.

31 posted on 06/08/2016 1:19:49 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: proust
Exactly, or Stephen Hawking for that matter.

I am hopeful that God, who can give the Gift of Faith when he chooses, perhaps when one is best disposed to receive it, has not yet finished with Dr. Hawking.
32 posted on 06/08/2016 1:25:37 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Carl Vehse
There is no “loophole” in the fourth amendment.

The language in the Bill of Rights was written clear enough

for the common man to understand.

Maybe that is the problem.

33 posted on 06/08/2016 2:53:50 PM PDT by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)
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To: DesertRhino
Such a great state, and produces among the worst most un-American politicans we endure.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to the casual observer. The problem is pretty simple though. Texas went from being a one-party democrat state to being a one-party republican state. All the most opportunist democrats with money behind them promptly switched parties when it behooved them to do so.

Perry was once a democrat.

Once it became clear that he couldn't get elected dog-catcher with a "D" beside his name, he did the principled thing, and switched parties. I do not believe there is a single office holder elected state-wide in Texas currently held by a democrat, and that's been true for a while.

Yeah, you have GibsMeDat areas around Houston, Dallas, and Austin (and the parts of south texas that have been absorbed by the encroaching mexican kleptocracy where folks can be elected to an office by regional voters, but if you have to go before the whole state, you have to run as a(n) alleged "republican".

As such, you can't trust a Texas politician farther than you can spit them generally. There are exceptions, but they are pretty few and far between. We had to really raise some serious hell to get concealed carry passed, and open carry was every bit as difficult. It wil be at least 3 years before we can even get the legislooters to even consider constitutional carry, and I doubt it will pass because the legislature is filled with democrats with both "R" and "D" by their names.

34 posted on 06/08/2016 7:45:09 PM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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To: proust
All of these things are open to interpretation. There was no Internet when the 4th was signed in.

I'll bet that when some goofy liberal says that only black-poweder muzzle-loaders should be allowed because that's what guns were like when the Second Amendment was written, you nod like a spring-loaded bobble-head.

35 posted on 06/08/2016 8:33:36 PM PDT by Cyberman
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To: Himyar
Sessions has a good reason to support this. Hopefully we will learn what it is in due time. I trust Sessions.
Certainly the animals did not want Jones back; if the holding of debates on Sunday mornings was liable to bring him back, then the debates must stop. Boxer, who had now had time to think things over, voiced the general feeling by saying: "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right." And from then on he adopted the maxim, "Napoleon is always right," in addition to his private motto of "I will work harder."

36 posted on 06/08/2016 8:41:33 PM PDT by Cyberman
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To: Cyberman
People keep saying we have a “two-party system”. I see a RepubliCrat Party; where’s the second one?

Demoplican ...

They're both the socialist party.

37 posted on 06/08/2016 8:43:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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