Posted on 05/24/2016 8:17:22 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
Who knew that the Trump campaign would be getting involved in higher education policy this year? Sam Clovis, a tenured economics professor and Trump campaign co-chair, recently noted that their objectives include getting the government out of student lending, requiring colleges to share in student loan risk, and discouraging borrowing by liberal arts majors.
Clovis told Inside Ed that the mere mention of these policy proposals has sent some Washington graybeards into a swivet, and "he expects some higher education leaders to react the same way when Trump outlines these ideas during the fall campaign."
Some of the ideas under consideration could be "revolutionary," Clovis said. Among the proposals currently being prepared are the following:
• A complete shift of the current federal student loan system to a market-based and market-driven system that would be run by private banks
• Remediation programs for those unprepared for college-level work would be renamed "student success programs"
• Colleges would subject applicants to greater scrutiny and only admit those who show promise of graduating and finding jobs within a reasonable time frame
• There would be less emphasis on parent contributions and the Free Application for Federal Student Aid and more of "a partnership" between the student, the bank and the college
Saying that all colleges should have skin in the game and share the risk associated with student loans, Clovis noted that many in Congress already voiced support for that idea, adding that "the risk needs to be substantial enough to change the way colleges decide whether to admit students, and which programs they offer."
A friend of mine who works in HR was sent a package of resumes from a major east coast university. They were resumes of their graduating MBA candidates.
Virtually every one of these kids has focused their studies on “green sustainability” or somesuch. Not a one of them appeared to be employable as anything but an EPA regulator.
This is an excellent idea - a greater emphasis on vocational skills and training is also needed (this is a reason some companies locate elsewhere or want to hire foreign workers...basic things like knowing how to sew, use a saw and hammer, etc.). This higher education cartel needs to be broken. A lot of people are being awarded degrees who had no business being admitted to begin with - they lack the most basic common sense. They take out massive loans and then expect someone else to pay for it and don’t feel they should be responsible for it...indicating they don’t have any sense and their degree wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on. I don’t like having to pay back loans either...but I chose to take them out and didn’t take out more than I could afford...this concept of basic responsibility is lost on many.
It really cheapens the degrees of the rest of us that people who don’t feel they should have any responsibility are being awarded these degrees left and right. I think back to that interview of that college student with Neil Cavuto. He points out irrefutable facts and figures and she just responds with “that’s ludicrous! I don’t believe that!” - arguing she should be given a ‘free’ college education at someone else’s expense - just because...not only should her college education not be paid for - she should not have even been admitted to begin with.
Good plan.
Where these are required "diversity" courses, the college has a few jobs for PhD's teaching them. What a deal.
WOW! This is the most sensible program I’ve heard any candidate / President say ever. I’m stunned. After decades of liberal nonsense -— and that includes GWB for inflicting upon us TSA and Homeland Security -— this is the first thing that is based upon individual responsibility.
Add two years to high school, with the reward of graduating with an associates degree (core classes). Those who want to stop after 12 years can do so and go to work, or to trade school. Colleges then would be two years, focusing on their majors to earn their bachelors.
It would save the parents a ton of money. The students would be a little more mature when the finally go off to college. It would probably wash out the non-serious students.
colleges paid there staff’s
should be "colleges paid their staffs"
and public outcry’s
should be "public outcries"
Do you remember that all student loans to private banks were essentially made illegal ( you could ask, but they won't take the risk ) by the fact that Obamacare took over all student loans and were using the high interest rates they were charging to offset the cost of Obamacare?
Thank you team Trump! Brilliant!!!
& remember GWB gave us NCLB and tried to extend it to college.
That is the issue no politician ever speaks about and may be even more important that the loan situation. If colleges were cranking out engineers, chemists, and physicists from all those who were capable then we wouldn't likely be having this conversation.
No, education loans still wouldn't be a Constitutionally valid role for the fedgov but, most of us could go along with it until we found a better solution.
Even if the federal government were removed from the equation and everything was on the state level then nothing would improve.
For example, Im a veteran and in Wisconsin I can go to college "for free" as long as I go to one of the schools in the UW system. Unfortunately, all degrees in the UW system are based on Transgendered Eskimo Feminist Vegetarian Studies with a class related to your declared major, sometimes only peripherally related, tacked on almost as an afterthought.
In Wisconsin, for awhile now, Republicans have total control of government and are led by someone supposedly capable of being president yet, these problems in the UW system have gotten worse if anything.
UW Green Bay has only recently added the Eskimo Vegetarian part of the curriculum but has been known for 40ish years for its classes in why white men are bad and how to be a lesbian. I suppose that one could argue that, at least from a Constitutional perspective, Wisconsin should have to pay to create its own racist perverts rather than stealing funds from the whole of the American people. Yes, answering the question of who pays will help some but doesn't address question of who at the state level is going to fix this problem with educational and how? We cant wait another 40+ years for the magic of the marketplace.
I suspect that as long as government at any level is allowed to participate in funding college tuitions that the problem will continue just with the tax burden shifted.
(FAIL. I hate when I create confusion due to editing with the intent of improving clarity.)
I’d prefer that the market, not the government, decide what degrees are offered.
“No more degrees for “Transgendered Eskimo Feminist Vegetarian Studies””
I wouldn’t got that far. I would think not allowing them to lead people to believe that there was a market for those degrees would be enough. Certainly a college wouldn’t float people loans for six figures when there was little hope they’d be repaid. And of course if someone is willing and able to pay full freight, they should be able to take whatever they want at their peril.
The best way for kids to find jobs and pay their debt is to have a robust economy - not a socialist great recession masterminded by Hillary and Obama.
“Philosophy and Sociology professors will be harmed by this plan”.
I would be concerned about this, WHY?
Maybe not for the snowflakes, but for millions of adults, it will be seen as doable, whereas 'rat freebies are not realistic.
That’s unConstitutional!
(LMAO)
There is certainly "no market demand" for psychology, sociology, mythology, gender related studies of various types, racial studies of various types, climate "science" and similar environmental garbage, public administration, and a plethora of other mind-numbing collegiate wastes of money.
"No market demand" means that made-up government positions for such brain-damaging curricula does not qualify as "market demand".
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