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Is Scarborough Shoal Worth a War?
Townhall.com ^ | May 24, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 05/24/2016 5:12:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

If China begins to reclaim and militarize Scarborough Shoal, says Philippines President Benigno S. Aquino III, America must fight.

Should we back down, says Aquino, the United States will lose "its moral ascendancy, and also the confidence of one of its allies."

And what is Scarborough Shoal?

A cluster of rocks and reefs, 123 miles west of Subic Bay, that sits astride the passageway out of the South China Sea into the Pacific, and is well within Manila's 200-mile exclusive economic zone.

Beijing and Manila both claim Scarborough Shoal. But, in June 2013, Chinese ships swarmed and chased off a fleet of Filipino fishing boats and naval vessels. The Filipinos never came back.

And now that China has converted Fiery Cross Reef and Mischief Reef into artificial islands with docks and air bases, Beijing seems about to do the same with Scarborough Shoal.

"Scarborough is a red line," says Gregory Poling of the Center for Strategic and International studies. To allow China to occupy and militarize the reef "would clearly change the balance of power."

Really? But before concluding that we must fight to keep China from turning Scarborough Shoal into an island base, there are other considerations.

High among them is that the incoming president of the Philippines, starting June 30, is Rodrigo Duterte, no admirer of America, and a populist authoritarian thug who, as Mayor of Davao, presided over the extrajudicial killing of some 1,000 criminals during the 1990s.

Duterte, who has charged Aquino with treason for abandoning Scarborough Shoal, once offered to set aside his country's claim in exchange for a Chinese-built railroad, then said he might take a jet ski to the reef to assert Manila's rights, plant a flag and let himself be executed to become a national hero.

In a clash with China, this character would be our ally.

Indeed, the rise of Duterte is yet another argument that, when Manila booted us out of Subic Bay at the Cold War's end, we should have dissolved our mutual security pact.

This June, an international arbitration tribunal in The Hague will rule on Manila's claims and China's transgressions on reefs that may not belong to her. Beijing has indicated she will not accept any such decision.

So, the fat is in the fire. And as the Chinese are adamant about their claims to the Spratly and Paracel Islands and virtually all the atolls, rocks and reefs in the South China Sea, and are reinforcing their claims by creating artificial islands and bases, the U.S. and China are headed for a collision.

U.S. warships and reconnaissance planes passing near these islets have been repeatedly harassed by Chinese warplanes.

Vietnam, too, has a quarrel with China over the Paracels, which is why President Obama is being feted in Hanoi and why he lifted the ban on arms sales. There is now talk of the Navy's return to Cam Ranh Bay.

But before we agree to support the claims of Manila and Hanoi against China's claims, and agree to use U.S. air and naval power if needed, we need to ask some hard questions.

What vital interest of ours is imperiled by who owns, or occupies, or militarizes Scarborough Shoal? If U.S. rights of passage in the South China Sea are not impeded by Chinese planes or ships, why make Hanoi's quarrels and Manila's quarrels with China our quarrels?

Vietnam and the Philippines are inviting us back to our old Cold War bases for a simple reason. If the Chinese use force to back up their claims, Hanoi and Manila want us to fight China for them.

But, other than a major war, what would be in it for us?

And if, after such a war, we have driven the Chinese off these islets and destroyed those bases, how long would we be required to defend them for Hanoi and Manila?

Have we not enough war guarantees outstanding?

We are moving NATO and U.S. troops into Eastern Europe and anti-missile missiles into Poland and Romania, antagonizing Russia. We are fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Yemen, and, if the neocons get their way, we will soon be confronting Iran again.

Meanwhile, North Korea is testing nuclear warheads for long-range missiles that can reach the American homeland.

And no vital U.S. interest of ours is imperiled in the South China Sea.

Should Beijing insanely decide to disrupt commercial traffic in that sea, the response is not to send a U.S. carrier strike group to blast their artificial islands off the map.

Better that we impose a 10 percent tariff on Chinese-made goods, and threaten an embargo of all Chinese goods if they do not stand down. And call on our "allies" to join us in sanctions against China, rather than sit and hold our coat while we fight their wars.

This economic action would send China's economy into a tailspin, and the cost to Americans would not be reckoned in the lives of our best and bravest.


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1 posted on 05/24/2016 5:12:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

They’re going to get WW III one way or another...


2 posted on 05/24/2016 5:15:54 AM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: Kaslin

“””If the Chinese use force to back up their claims, Hanoi and Manila want us to fight China for them.

But, other than a major war, what would be in it for us?”””

Will China keep sending us cheap stuff during the war? Will they take over all the U.S. companies on China leaving all the stock holders broke?


3 posted on 05/24/2016 5:28:17 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumpers sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Kaslin
If China begins to reclaim and militarize Scarborough Shoal, says Philippines President Benigno S. Aquino III, America must fight.

How brave of the Philippine President to commit US soldiers to a war....

I was in Clark and Subic Bay for a visit just after the Philippines Gov't kicked the US out in 1992. Seems they have a very short-term memory

4 posted on 05/24/2016 5:30:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: CatQuilt

Sounds like 3 bald men fighting over a comb.


5 posted on 05/24/2016 5:31:25 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Kaslin

It’s nice to know that, even in his dotage, Pat Buchanan has found a well-paying job as “apologist” for China.


6 posted on 05/24/2016 5:44:34 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: CatQuilt

Bismarck said, “The Balkans are not worth the bones of a Pomeranian grenadier”. Tens of millions of dead, millions of young men’s lives ruined, much of Belgium and northern France destroyed, the rise of Hitler and Lenin, and the destruction of much of what was good about the Old Europe from which its culture and self-confidence have never recovered. Bismarck was right then, and he’s right now about these idiot, scrub islands in the Pacific.


7 posted on 05/24/2016 5:45:58 AM PDT by laconic (M)
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To: Kaslin

Every night a small Mexican Village moves across the border North to America for welfare benefits and lawyers.

meanwhile we yearn to fight over a cold, wet scrabble of rocks halfway around the world.

I find that puzzling.

I remember the jubilant dancing sea of yellow that accompanied our Navy being kicked out of Subic Bay.

why not we permit the Philippines the highest expression the of patriotism by letting them fight for their rocks..?


8 posted on 05/24/2016 5:46:22 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

So the Phillipino President tells us when we must go to war?

Since Congress doesn’t deal with that any longer I was wondering who’s job it was now. At least we know who to write to with our complaints.


9 posted on 05/24/2016 5:46:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who dies)
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To: pfony1

The US military is done. Obama has fundamentally transformed it into a force only suited for marching in parades.


10 posted on 05/24/2016 5:50:55 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Kaslin

Ya Pat....nothing is worth fighting for.

Let them have that and then S. Korea, then Japan.

Thanks Pat.


11 posted on 05/24/2016 5:51:24 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: raybbr

China will federalize every facility that the idiotic U.S. companies have invested in. Every stock that U.S. investors have dumped money into. They will cut off all trade with the U.S. Yep, we gonna start a war over a two bit piece of coral just for some Manilla folks that kicked us out of their country a few years ago!!

China has all the cards, we will do nothing, ever. They will do what the Japanese could not 80 years ago.


12 posted on 05/24/2016 6:00:22 AM PDT by biff
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To: Kaslin

The principal economic asset of Scarborough Shoal used to be scrap metal from the thousands of Mk-76 25 lb. practice bombs dropped by USN warplanes ‘back in the day’. I clearly remember the ‘bonka boats’ waiting patiently for the jets to finish their runs before rushing in to dive for the scrap metal. In fact I’m sure I have a belt buckle somewhere made from that scrap metal.

Bottom line: Scarborough Shoal isn’t worth one single ounce of American blood.


13 posted on 05/24/2016 6:04:28 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: hitting your target.)
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To: pfony1

Exactly.

Buchanan has shilled for a lifetime for whoever pays him.


14 posted on 05/24/2016 6:11:53 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Kaslin

If you don’t have to fight in them, everything is worth a war.

If all you have to do is count the money you make from the sales of arms, munitions, other supplies, and bribes, everything is worth a war.

If you are the ones that are going to be fighting them, very few things are worth a war.

So, I suppose , it all comes down to your perspective. Are you on the counting end or the fighting end?


15 posted on 05/24/2016 6:12:01 AM PDT by sport
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

Perhaps.

But I think the Pentagon is less than a year away from ordering its “death-to-America” flag officers to go wave their white flags somewhere else.


16 posted on 05/24/2016 6:14:25 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: Kaslin

Wisdom from Pat Buchanen.

Pat would be an interesting secretary of state.


17 posted on 05/24/2016 6:21:00 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Kaslin

He’s willing to fight to the last drop of American blood.


18 posted on 05/24/2016 6:21:21 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: PGR88

I was in Clark...I think Pinataubu (?) kicked us out of Clark.


19 posted on 05/24/2016 6:24:09 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: MarvinStinson
Buchanan has shilled for a lifetime for whoever pays him.

Well, at least it's refreshing to hear from someone who is is not shilling for the defense contractors and banksters who desperately need a war - any war - to bail themselves out of the mess they have gotten into.

20 posted on 05/24/2016 6:29:04 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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