Posted on 05/22/2016 8:53:51 PM PDT by thoughtomator
that’s cause we actually fought to win back then....now, not so much, no very pc to put your enemy out of our misery....
-—If she had sound instincts in foreign affairs, this kind of emotional basis for forming policy might be negated, but there is no evidence at all that she does.-—
Unfortunately half the electorate makes decisions based on emotion as well.
Between the photos these events happened: communist president, Soviet invasion, local resistance, US arms rebels, some funds go via Pakistan, Pakistan arms and funds Pakastani Taliban, stinger missles drive Soviets out, civil war breaks out in Afghanistan (this is what likely caused the damage), Taliban welcomed to end civil war. Now I'm in no way supporting the Taliban, but the reality is that the destruction had already happened by the time Taliban took over.
The wording on the second photo could also read "After Afghanistan Civil War", "Result of Soviet Invasion", "Result of US Abandoning Afghanistan", "Result of Cold War".
In a very real sense, stupid US policy is responsible for resurgence of radical Islam and jihadism, including the Taliban. It's humbling and raises the question "What stupid things are being done in foreign affairs right now?"
The difference between WW2 and now is the people. in WW2 the people were forced to fight and gladly went home once the leaders were killed.
In Afghanistan and surrounding countries each individual WANTS to fight and die for Mohammad.
Good point, we were fighting countries, now, regardless of how most of the left feels, we are fighting a quasi religion.
We face the same problem in Afghanistan that we faced in South Vietnam: we cannot defeat an enemy who has the advantage of an inviolable sanctuary to retreat to, where his women and children can find refuge, and from which he can obtain training and supplies.
In the case of Afghanistan, that refuge is Pakistan, particularly the Tribal Areas.
But you are wrong about not being able to conquer an area. The solution for a people who just won't stop fighting you, is to exterminate them completely, and repopulate the area with your own people.
Good grief! I'm all for taking out terrorist, but decades lingering in these countries...what's the strategery?
Bingo
FIXING TO?
How many times do I have to tell you people, it's "Fixin' to."
Jeez... [facepalm]
Gotta fight ‘em over there so we don’t have to fight them over here. That was the prevailing logic for this whole fiasco.
Yes, but we could have taken out or greatly degraded the Taliban and then left. Instead we decided to do “nation building” which is a waste of time in Afghanistan and places like it.
No, it’s, “fittin’ to.”
>One thing about both Bush 41 and Bush 43 - when they drew a line in the sand, they followed through unlike the inept obama and his ridiculous redline in Syria that drew a false flag attack and a loss of credibility
Wait. You mean the same that came out with the whole ‘Religion of Peace’ non-sense, that flew out the Saudis+ right after 911, went to war w/ the least troublesome in the region (instead of those that fostered terrorism...aka S.A.), gave *US* the NSA/TSA...but no profiling, said ‘the war would be paid for’ (sure it was, by We the People), gave us some of the most F*-up ROE, etc.?
Followed-through? OK, maybe. ‘In it to win it’? Never.
Bush 41 kept Saddam in power, did he not think that Saddam would inevitably plot his revenge?
Any idea what year that top photo (the two girls) was taken?
>Bush 41 kept Saddam in power, did he not think that Saddam would inevitably plot his revenge?
Yes. He was SUCH a *problem* in the 1st Gulf War.... /s
What ‘revenge’? More like Libya...more BS than anything; *rattle sabers*, swap here, swat here, *rattle sabers*, repeat.
It sure wasn’t like the Saudi’s are doing/been doing. Nor did *we* take it to those whom deserved (too much hand-holding and kissing going on).
1970
I wanted to go there then. The family put a stop to it.
I wanted to see the big buddhas.
Why? What difference does it make? Thugs in the WH, war on drugs, war on terror...Soetero is in league with the M-B-Hood, Sinaloa and the homosexual agenda amongst others...illegals getting free stuff from American’s. We’re all slaves now. Makes a big difference, divide and conquer.
“How many decades have we had bases in Japan and Germany?”
3 decades too long.
Next question.
L
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