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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
That sea ice in Antarctica is obviously surface ice. El Nino warmed water is surface water. Arctic regions are shielded from warm El Nino surface water. And of course there is volcanic activity affecting Antarctic ice.

In our current situation we need to assume that every report from a US government agency is falsified. We obviously have one of the most corrupt governments in our history. About 2/3 of the population realizes that now. About 2-3 weeks ago, Europe reported massive crop failures due to 50 year record freezes. Will be a bad year for French wine. Serbia just had snow a couple of days ago wiping out 70 % of some of their crops. One must assume that the past week in the US will produce similar crop failures. Snow in Michigan a couple days ago. First time on that date in close to 50 years.

63 posted on 05/17/2016 2:37:39 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

True.

But. Look at the currents. Cold water from the poles flows south along the Alaska-Canadian-US coast south towards the tropics, turns west due to the Coriollis effect, then crosses the tropics and heats, turns north and becomes the Japanese current to hit Alaska and repeat the cycle. Flow is slow - < 1-2 knots. Steady. But slow.

In the south, same thing happens : flows north off of Chile, Peru. Turns west and then heads west then south past OZ and NZ, curves back beside Antarctica, then north again.
El Nino - and we are in last part of a strong one - is characterized by warmer waters in the east Pacific off of Peru near Christmas. That warmer water needs to cross the Pacific, flow past Australia, flow past and under the Antarctic sea ice to melt MORE of it than normal, then flow back north to be re-warmed.

Hasn’t been enough time yet for that cycle since its max in December-January. Only the early waters would have reached the Antarctic, if even that. Further, the low point of the September- March low Antarctic sea ice has long passed, and the sea ice was expanding until this sensor-program failure.

I can be convinced of your idea. But show me the math and the measurements of warmer surface water around Antarctica.


73 posted on 05/17/2016 7:55:44 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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