Posted on 05/15/2016 5:34:36 AM PDT by HomerBohn
“Please, saying the future should have been known a dozen years past this catastrophic mass murder is preposterous. How bout placing the blame on the Muslims instead of denigrating Americans.”
That is so sensible, it receives no response.
To act upon the information would have been deemed to be racist and profiling.
What you lack there is any sort of real evidence of a direct connection - evidence we DO have about the Saudis.
It being 2016, it’s time to come to grips with a few things that weren’t so apparent in 2005. Among these things is that we went into Iraq on the basis of deliberately false information supplied by the Bush administration, and we have no certain boundary on the lengths to which information supplied to us has been altered to this end. Also among these things is the deep involvement of Saudi royals in the 9/11 attacks.
James Woods alerted the FBI to one of the dry run flights a month before the attack and there was no action. The FBI didn’t confirm they were among the terrorists but Woods has said that at least 2 of those on 9-11-2001 were also on his flight.
Sibel Edmonds (theboilingfrog.com) worked for the FBI as a translator of Iranian and Turkish languages. She read an Iranian warning to the US of eminent attacks that was ignored by the US.
Edward Snowden has released much of what William Binney had already released, which is why many people think Snowden was setup by the NSA.
“What you lack there is any sort of real evidence of a direct connection - evidence we DO have about the Saudis.”
And what you’ve offered is opinion and attitude - nothing.
“we went into Iraq on the basis of deliberately false information supplied by the Bush administration”
Yeah of heard those claims. But since you’ve offered nothing but conclusion, I’ll help.
Wilson - Bush lied when he truthfully said that British intelligence indicated Saddam was trying to buy uranium from an African country.
And/or, it was all about Bush claims about stockpiles of WMDs. In truth, that was only one of the reasons, both for President Bush and President Clinton.
This particular article doesn't say exactly when Drake ran the comparison, but if you read Drake's biography on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake), it was likely to be back in 2002, when the Inspector General was investigating the replacement system.
The issue is being resurrected now precisely because it worked, without the violations of privacy that have been committed since then. Congress is considering legislation to reauthorize the funding for systems that replaced it.
But, as I posted earlier: this kind of testing is an absolute requirement for data analysis and mining systems. If it doesn't identify known events, you can't rely on it to identify unknown events.
An addenda: read the sections about Drake's prosecution under the Espionage Act. Consider what he was accused of doing, and what a certain Presidential candidate has done.
and there it is
I hope the links stil work.
Public Law 105-338 The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998:
This should give you a link to the text of the law, well worth keeping.
Public Law 107-243 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002:
Wow you’re still buried deep in WoT propaganda, eh?
Not sure what I can do for you if you’re not willing to inform yourself of easily accessible information, such as Powell’s key presentation to the UN on Iraqi WMD - the primary stated justification for the invasion - being completely false and based off a single, unreliable source code-named “Curveball” (as if that wasn’t enough of a tip-off that the truth wasn’t being told).
If this weren’t coming from Salon I might read it.
Powell’s testimony on the mobile-bio labs?
They were examined after the war. My recollection is that the DIA had one opinion, the CIA a contrary opinion. The press simply chose one to report as fact.
Corrected link!
Public Law 105-338 The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998:
Don’t you think it would be responsible to sort out that difference of opinion before committing to a major war, killing over a million people, destabilizing the entire Middle East, and spending trillions of dollars doing it?
Indeed. And further, the idea that ONE system in the many hundreds and thousands in the Intelligence Community would be the silver bullet is absurd.
Anyone who thinks Snowden should have simply reported this to his chain of command or to congress in some whistleblower program needs to read about Binney and what happened to him when he tried that.
Snowden watched and learned a lesson.
The bottom line is that the NSA cannot be trusted in its mission. Instead of doing its job, it is obsessed with gathering unlimited power to surveille and collect mountains of useless data. Note that while spending all this money and effort to collect crap, they are ignoring the important stuff.
This is inefficient.
Compounding this is their perpetual *excuse* that they *could* have been doing their job if they just had more power to do so.
This is the same problem found in totalitarian regimes, like East Germany. Their entire government had given up on the important things that government is supposed to do. Instead they concentrated on nit-picking and spying on their own people. This is a death sentence to a government, that is, a government that inefficient is destined to fall.
Right now, the US has 16 *major* intelligence agencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community
Some are more efficient, some are less so. And some have so completely gone “off the reservation” that they need an extensive restructuring and mission limitations to return to doing what they are supposed to be doing; not just lobbying for more and more voyeuristic power.
You remind me of the poster on another thread and website who “educated” me that the Soviet Union was neither socialist, nor communist but represented “state capitalism.” Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Chavez are capitalists by the modern interpretation.
Perhaps you are of the school of thought that cold polar vortexes are proof of global warming.
I've wasted enough time on you. You are incapable of learning.
“Though Binney and a number of others left the NSA when it instituted the illegal wiretap program,
Is he saying 9/11 would have been prevented if the government was able to tap all our phones illegally?”
No, he left because it was an illegal domestic wiretap operation. He was saying that a targeted and legal program, thinthread would have prevented 9/11.
Essentially thinthread was profiling, targeting terrorists and using their legally obtained metadata to find them. The NSA went with wide net and decided it would be better to collect everything, on everybody. More illegal, less effective.
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