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Hmmm: Navy “fires” commander of sailors captured by Iran (Video in the link)
Hot Air.com ^ | May 13, 2016 | ED MORRISEY

Posted on 05/13/2016 10:25:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/13/2016 10:25:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Good


2 posted on 05/13/2016 10:33:23 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I wonder though - what were his ROE’s?

What if he had instead shot-up the Iranian boats? Would he have been court-martialed by an angry Obama regime?

Perhaps this commander was put in a no-win situation? Maybe he was a scapegoat for a media operation by the Obama regime? There were many strange facts with this case - for example, how did both boats lose radar and power?

Political correctness kills - both careers and lives.


3 posted on 05/13/2016 10:37:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

It is a shame that civilian government employees aren’t held to the same standard (or at least some standard) - Lerner, Koskine, Congress et al


4 posted on 05/13/2016 10:41:30 AM PDT by falcon99
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To: Kaslin

And yet, the investigation of Benghazi - who denied a military response, etc. - continues to this day.

I wonder why...


5 posted on 05/13/2016 10:44:59 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Kaslin

My brother was a sea captain. He believes they caused their own predicament and are lucky they’re alive.


6 posted on 05/13/2016 10:47:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

He wasn’t the commander of the unit until after the incident happened. The real commander at the time of the incident was “protected” by an admiral.


7 posted on 05/13/2016 10:47:31 AM PDT by batterycommander (Keep calm and call for artillery.)
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Obama’s navy certainly isn’t the one we served in. (1967-1975)


8 posted on 05/13/2016 10:47:37 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: Kaslin

Obammy and Kerry can appoint him to chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or whatever.


9 posted on 05/13/2016 10:47:42 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: PGR88

“Perhaps this commander was put in a no-win situation? Maybe he was a scapegoat for a media operation by the Obama regime? There were many strange facts with this case - for example, how did both boats lose radar and power?”

Very, very good questions.

I never thought this whole thing passed the smell test.


10 posted on 05/13/2016 10:50:33 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Kaslin

What of the Cmdr. who was the CO of the squadron at the time of the incident? Did he retire or was he promoted thereby making room for XO (Lt. Cmdr?) Rasch to be promoted to Cmdr. in his/her place?


11 posted on 05/13/2016 10:51:15 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: PGR88

I wonder though - what were his ROE’s?
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I would take the courts-martial and try to get all this aired out - career ruined anyway.

Funny, the XO hangs, and the CO slides?
XO must have ‘spoken up about the shiitee conditions and is now collecting his ‘reward’.
How about the OIC of the two craft?
Wasn’t he/she Navigating?
Would think ‘on scene CDR’ would get shafted before the XO.

Whatever happened to ‘my Navy’

Of course if ‘on scene people’ and CO bypassed maybe they should go straight to the TOP and work the way down from the pResident.

THAT I could go along with.

Headline the other day saying Barry was being dragged out of DC in chains....
I had my hopes up till I realized they were referring to USS Barry (DD-933) being towed by tug from DC to Philadelphia.

Oh well, maybe next time.


12 posted on 05/13/2016 10:58:09 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Pols headstone- Please bury me not so deep so I can continue to fleece the sheep")
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To: batterycommander

Holy cow, I didn’t know that. Is the real commander one of the protected class?


13 posted on 05/13/2016 11:04:45 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Is this the same outfit?

https://navaltoday.com/2014/08/13/coastal-riverine-squadron-3-commander-replaced/


14 posted on 05/13/2016 11:05:57 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The blamed commander was a Christian.


15 posted on 05/13/2016 11:12:53 AM PDT by batterycommander (Keep calm and call for artillery.)
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To: falcon99

I agree completely. They should be


16 posted on 05/13/2016 11:24:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

They also didn’t have the Balls to fight off the F N iranian basturds!


17 posted on 05/13/2016 11:41:31 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Kaslin; PGR88; Sacajaweau; MNnice; MichaelCorleone; xrmusn

I have posted this letter before, but it seems timely again.

The XO is just the first fall guy used to obfuscate the truth. As far as I am concerned everything we have been and will be told by this Administration and their Navy acolytes is a lie.

Thinking of my own time leading small boat detachments, why were they there initially? Was no one paying attention? They now even have GPS. There were two boats, so one could have towed the other. Back in my Old Navy even if I was leading LCM-8 landing craft without radar, I would have had a chart, compass and current information about currents.

Could it be the Iranians had a different definition of territorial waters to which they wanted this Administration and our Navy to subscribe? That seems more likely. Regardless my CO and I would have laid out a course which intercepted the friendly shore at least by the latitude of the Iranian island. We would have been nowhere near the island, and the refueling ship would have been where we assigned it. Most likely we would have chosen a course which kept us in sight of land the whole way.

Finally how could the Navy lose track of these boats? Why were the crews not initiating contact? During an amphibious exercise my wave of assault boats were swallowed by a fog. When I saw that fog coming I made sure the flag ship could vector us back to our LPD. In this case the departure port, refueling ship, and the destination port should all share the same radio frequency and do regular radio checks. This evolution was not rocket science.

This event directs my memory back to the Cold War involving China as well as the Soviet Union. Navy ships stationed in Yokosuka Japan ”patrolled” through the Taiwan Straits as they transited to Vietnam. Our captain told us that if any Chinese ship tried to intercept us we would fight. The prospect was not that exciting because our heaviest armament were three dual 3in50cal anti-aircraft mounts.

But the Pueblo incident was on everyone’s mind and that was going to be our response.


18 posted on 05/13/2016 11:44:53 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Kaslin

Our military needs to ‘fire’ Obama as their commander and chief


19 posted on 05/13/2016 11:51:07 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: smokingfrog
I don't know if this is the same guy?


20 posted on 05/13/2016 11:52:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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