[Vaquero]

I have a feeling there was trouble in paradise between W and Cheney during much of 43s term.

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Agree.

[hoosiermama]

Wouldn’t surprise me. The reason I asked about Liz is because she would be a good addition to administration

[mkjessup]

I have a feeling there was trouble in paradise between W and Cheney during much of 43s term.

It's my understanding that Cheney was pushing big time to bomb the shiite out of Iran and do away with their nuclear program once and for all, but the only thing GWB wanted to do was talk the big talk, and failed to walk the walk.

[HombreSecreto]

I see it your way. Cheney was ticked at Bush for not pardoning Scooter Libby. Also Cheney’s background was Defense during the Cold War. Was SecDef under Bush I during the Gulf War.

Trump’s strong defense and strong for the vets positions probably play well. As an aside, would not surprise me if there’s been some backdoor talking/advising between Trump and Cheney using Giuliani as the go-between.

I never thought Cheney was a diehard neocon. If you read up on Col. John Boyd, Cheney was one of the people that listened to his theories and in some ways was a Pentagon reformer. Cheney brought Boyd in during the planning of the Gulf War. It might be said that Boyd did more to plan that famous left hook than Schwarzkopf’s team.

There’s a resemblance between the defense mindset of 2016 and the defense mindset of 1976. Just like then, we’ve got to pivot from a counter-insurgency military to a military that can win a major conflict against a nation-state, imo.

[donna]

New Book Claims Bush 41 Trashed Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld
November 5, 2015
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3356885/posts