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To: Olog-hai

“”Article 1 Section 1 that “(a)ll legislative powers herein shall be vested in a Congress of the United States” and clearly gives the executive branch no power over it whatsoever””

There is nothing in the U. S. Constitution that prohibits the president from proposing legislation - he finds his favorite congressman to put it forward. It’s done all the time and has been for years. Congress has to vote on that legislation and are fulfilling their duty under the constitution. The president is not making the laws; they are passed or not passed by Congress. Of course, we have the current president writing executive orders outlining all kinds of actions but in actuality, they are intended only for EXECUTIVE purposes but he doesn’t understand that.

Would be nice to have a president who realized what his real obligations are to the country and to the constitution. They certainly aren’t golf outings and vacations.. No one has to be a genius to understand that this is a lark for him - always has been. A place holder for something much worse!

http://legal- dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Executive+Order

“”Historically, executive orders related to routine administrative matters and to the internal operations of federal agencies, such as amending Civil Service Rules and overseeing the administration of public lands. More recently, presidents have used executive orders to carry out legislative policies and programs. As a result, the executive order has become a critical tool in presidential policy making.””


18 posted on 05/06/2016 10:15:10 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States

“”The Constitution’s Ineligibility Clause prevents the President (and all other executive officers) from simultaneously being a member of Congress. Therefore, the president cannot directly introduce legislative proposals for consideration in Congress. However, the president can take an indirect role in shaping legislation, especially if the president’s political party has a majority in one or both houses of Congress. For example, the president or other officials of the executive branch may draft legislation and then ask senators or representatives to introduce these drafts into Congress. The president can further influence the legislative branch through constitutionally mandated, periodic reports to Congress.””


19 posted on 05/06/2016 10:21:00 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

There is nothing in the U. S. Constitution that prohibits the president from proposing legislation …
What is unambiguous about the phrase “all legislative powers herein”? Of course it is the president and his minions in these unconstitutional executive departments making law and Congress rubber-stamping it, which is exactly what the USSR did (Politburo to Supreme Soviet) and what Red China does today (Politburo to National People’s Congress).

The recommendation clause in Article 2 Section 3 does not give the POTUS power or even ability to propose legislation. Doing so is destruction of separation of powers. Furthermore, faithful execution of the laws per the same section is only within the context of laws properly passed and not according to presidential whim or reinterpretation.
21 posted on 05/06/2016 12:21:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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