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To: Mase

> I see you know nothing about farming either. Ask American farmers what it’s like competing with Mexican farmers. Consumers benefit when the market becomes more competitive. Should consumers (every American citizen) benefit or should they be screwed by bigger government and protectionist crony capitalists?

Woo lad, insults? We’re having a discussion not a war.

>I saw what happened in southern California and it comes as no surprise to me that this happens when government refuses to protect our borders. NAFTA has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not our borders are protected. Saying it does only proves you don’t know anything about the trade agreement you’re criticizing.

Do a bit of research:
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/10/11/globalization-and-nafta-caused-migration-from-mexico/


60 posted on 05/04/2016 7:44:42 AM PDT by RedWulf
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To: RedWulf
You made a number of claims that have no basis in reality.

1. NAFTA has not been a major disaster.
2. Illigals were overrunning the border long before NAFTA
3. American farmers are not crony globalists allied with government.
4. To claim that we do not have the industrial capability to sustain a war is just more feelings on your part. Up until 2009, we manufactured more than at any other time in history. And we are almost back to that point today.
5. Welfare and crime due to illegals is caused by our government and the Mexican government. It has nothing to do with a trade deal.Conflating them as you have done is dishonest and shows a serious lack of understanding about trade agreements and trade in general. There isn't a person on this forum who supports free trade that isn't also in favor of building a wall and sending the invaders back. I've found that the ones who scream the loudest against the freedom to trade know the least amount about it.

67 posted on 05/04/2016 8:15:53 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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