Posted on 04/26/2016 4:30:58 AM PDT by HomerBohn
how do we know this money was destined for a church and orphanage?
It details that in the article.
More importantly, why is a person’s money fair game for the government to take without due process?
“how do we know this money was destined for a church and orphanage?”
How does that change things? They stole his money.
How do we know you aren’t involved in criminal enterprise and shouldn’t have your assets confiscated and be jailed? You have a lot of nerve, criminal that you are, to even comment on this case.
I agree, they stole his money. No drugs were found and no crime, that I can see, was committed. Some of our police and government officials try take as much as they can from the citizens. Lord help us, I am afraid it is only going to get worse.
What business is it of the government's where his money came from or what he planned to use it for? In this society, we don't punish someone unless they have been convicted of a crime.
If he were planning a terrorist attack and these funds were to buy bombs, then he should be tried and convicted on this charge. Then and only then should his funds be confiscated.
I don’t really damn care. They stole his money for a broken tail light! If they do it to him, they can do it to anybody!
After a legal battle you can try to get it back,
What are you implying?
Then, with that train of thought- when a police officer guns down an innocent bystander or a family pet; us proles should be able to legally return fire on said police officer..........
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Still pisses me off that this state sanctioned theft occurs.
We don’t. Nor is there proof of how the money was obtained. But it makes a great one sided propaganda piece. All a person has to do is show the money was legitimately obtained, even if it is gambling winnings there is a receipt, and the government returns the money with interest.
“how do we know this money was destined for a church and orphanage?”
If it’s going somewhere illegal, that’s for the government to prove before a jury.
Lawyers and politicians and thieves. But then I repeat myself.
i agree that the government seizure of the money would seem to violate due process, however i am not sure i believe his claims either. that’s all i’m saying. i am not defending the government...asset seizure, eminent domain, bot h could use serious reforms
What you said is absolutely not true.
To get the money back you must litigate against the municipality that took it. that costs a lot of money right there.
They are not obligated to return it, and make much effort to keep it.
In our country we don’t have to “show the money was legitimately obtained”. The burden is on the police to show it WAS NOT legitimately obtained.
USA, RIP.
“All a person has to do...”
That or your “one sided propaganda piece” quip independently reveal you as a police-state big-government statist. We both know it’s never a quick trip to the bank or business or, in this case, the church / orphanage in the next week. And we both know that typically the first pro-forma hearing is adjudicated by the same agency that just did the stealing, and is also typically delayed by some number of months. And all proceeds are minus attorney fees and lost work, of course.
This has been going on for what, 30 years now? And people expect it to change? Face it, they yelled “Drug War” and the American people gave it up faster than a drunk prom date. Of course, we thought they would only ever do it to “those” people, but here we are.
Muskogee has since agreed to return the money which they should IMO. Oklahoma tried to get a law passed limiting CAFs but the LEO in Oklahoma raised so much hell over it that it died in committee. If you’re found innocent you can get your property back but the cost of attorneys to do so often makes it prohibitive.
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