Nothing exemplifies the degradation of FR more perfectly than the fact that it took until post #27 for someone to point out that the Kochs are libertarians, whose practical side makes them lean GOP. They are not remotely GOP-E.
The Kochs could buy and sell Trump many times over.
why vote Hillary? is she a Libertarian? No. So why vote Hillary?
Speaking for myself, I was previously aware that the Koch brothers are regarded by some as libertarian; I needed neither post#27 nor you to make me aware of that.
I have voted for a libertarian in numerous elections; however, I refuse to join the big-ell party - until and unless they remove the hypocrisy inherent in their platform.
I do not consider “libertarians” like the Kochs to be true libertarians. I consider them merely greedy, selfish, and eager to influence government so as to keep the government away from their stash.
I argue that true libertarianism requires integrity and responsibility, not merely a laissez-faire attitude about business and libertine attitude about morality.
There can be no legitimate argument by so-called libertarians for open borders until all federal welfare is first eliminated: The so-called “small-government” thing to which a Koch type will give lip service must come first!
To promote open borders while the country has a mammoth honeypot drawing impoverished foreigners here is despicable, and done not for any real ideological coherence, but to further enhance their own riches. (The wealthy in America have long loved government welfare: Let the plebeians pay for my low-wage slaves with those taxes they cannot avoid, so that I can keep more money using the tax shelters that they cannot afford.)
If the welfare state were dismantled, then I would call for open borders (and I think someone like Milton Friedman would respect such a position).
As far as being “not remotely” GOP-E, you are simply being disingenuous: They may not be entirely in lock-step with the establishment, but cozying up to them and using money to influence them certainly qualifies as a much closer association than you admit. (If the current front runner for the RNC were an establishment puppet as originally intended, then we would not be hearing this from a Koch!)
I have long seen little real difference between the likes of the Koch brothers, Warren Buffet, and Jeffrey Immelt; I certainly have long rejected the Left’s casting of the Kochs as “conservatives” for political purposes: All are simply trying to buy government influence; some prefer to buy at the DNC store while others prefer to buy at the RNC one.
This very act by a Koch brother to so condescendingly seek to undermine the electoral process is not the behavior of either a true conservative or a true libertarian; it is the behavior of an oligarch.
If you want to be insulting to posters here, at least be intellectually honest while doing so.