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To: RitaOK
Rita, you and I are in disagreement over Trump BUT RNC, if it tries to pull thiscrap will need only to win a credentials fight or several. Make up a phony excuse as to why NY's unanimous or near unanimous Trump delegation is somehow illegitimate. Congressthing Peter King (plutocrat slave-NY2) does the TV agitprop aout how NY was somehow ROBBED. The NY delegation is ineligible by normal rules to vote on its own credentials. Or bundle FL and other Trump big delegations with NY (CA?, PA, IL, etc., as many as necessary) and make them all part of one challenge on which NONE of them can vote.

This sort of crap is an old GOP-E tactic pulled by Dewey and Eisenhower against Robert Taft in 1952 and it worked as Ike's supporters piously pranced about the convention floor with pre-printed picket signs reading Thou Shalt Not Steal to unseat the Texas delegation chosen by whatever means, most likely state convention in those days.

Therefore it is NEVER over until Paul Ryan brings down the gavel as convention chair and declares the nominee. Then Congresscreature Gerald Ford did that to Reagan at the 1968 convention as Paul Laxalt approached to change enough delegate votes from Nixon to Reagan to stop Nixon on the first ballot, leaving only Reagan and Rockefeller and the second choice of most Nixon delegates was Reagan. Nixon would have collapsed on the second ballot since his dominance was hanging together by bubblegum and bailing wire and the first ballot loyalty of J. Strom Thurmond, Barry Goldwater, Harry Dent and the ever treasonous Clarke Reed. I know you mean well on this POTUS race even if I disagree with your candidate. The foregoing is a caution to you and your fellow Trump supporters NOT to underestimate the perfidy of the RNC and the GOP-E.

Cruz is likely going nowhere. Trump has crippled him. So the obvious choices are those who emerge at the convention, are trusted by the usual gang of suspects and remained out of the fight. They come on during Day One of the convention through a successful credentials war, when it is too late for Trump's tactics. They don't like Cruz or even Rubio so it will be neither of them. It won't be Kasich whatever Kasich may think. It might be Scott Walker (OK I am biased). They might name Cornyn or some other senior senator not known to be a leftist sliebag but who really is. OR, Paul Ryan may turn his gavel over to the generally unknown Kevin McCarthy and "reluctantly" take the nomination "to save the arty and the nation." What a SWELL guy!

Do ya see what I am saying? AND, if it is Ryano, when he loses because of the mass nausea of the base over what a whore he is, he gets simultaneously re-elected to the House seat (allowed in Wisconsin, see 2012) and continues as "leader" of the Wall Street Party if not as Speaker.

78 posted on 04/23/2016 7:14:17 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
This sort of crap is an old GOP-E tactic pulled by Dewey and Eisenhower against Robert Taft in 1952 and it worked as Ike's supporters piously pranced about the convention floor with pre-printed picket signs reading Thou Shalt Not Steal to unseat the Texas delegation chosen by whatever means, most likely state convention in those days.

Or they could make bus full of Trump delegates keep circling the convention site. [Link]

82 posted on 04/23/2016 8:06:46 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: BlackElk

How horrifying! I *do* hear you. It is the total break down of democracy if the people’s will is being heard out here in little people land, and openly thwarted.

They will sacrifice anything for the globalist agenda if they play the same heavy handed games of the past, back when the people were mowing their lawns and paying no attention and had no understanding of Civics 101 and delegates and suppression of many, the rejection of even more and replacing them with those of an opponent.

The people are awake and are becoming more alert everywhere.
In the upcoming state conventions, Trump supporters have to lie and say they are for Cruz to even hope for just an even chance to be elected, in many of these districts caucuses at State.

I heard a man by the name of Doug Wead, now a convention historian, a Libertarian who worked for Ron Paul, and ten other presidential candidates, and worked for GW Bush. He said on Lou Dobbs, what you are indicating, that while all eyes are on the RULES COMMITTEE, it is the Credentials Committee that the real conflicts will take place.

He also added that TRUMP does have standing to challenge some of these Cruz delegates who were “stolen” from him in the states where he won and where he was allocated “earned delegates” that are now known as Cruz supporter delegates.

It is all too underhanded and smoky for words, but I do appreciate what you are saying and your keen knowledge of the whole game.

I agree with you totally, coming from you, what is possible and we are left on our knees to pray for God’s mercy. We deserve to be abandoned, but I pray we are not.

Thank you, dearest BlackElk, forever friend, and teacher of all things good and admonishment of all things bad.

Love to you and Mrs. Elk and may Spring warm you both, inside and out. Rita.

PS: Let me know if you ever hear from *NL from your old ping list.


83 posted on 04/23/2016 8:37:31 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: BlackElk; Jim Robinson
Read what I posted to RitaOk at #78. Uniformity is hard to impose on people with good faith objections. If Trump is nominated (not a certainty, see #78), I will vote for him as will most of his opponents here. If we don't care for Trump, we really hate, loathe and despise both Demonrats.

It is also my instinct that at least some here pick fights over nominees to undermine you and your website no matter WHO they claim to support for POTUS. One cannot surgically identify them with certainty. Free Republic MUST be a permanent thing. Whether Trump is remains to be seen.

There is and always has been a GOP-E. We need to kill it off. I've been trying since the antics of Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney and William Scranton in 1964. I probably won't be living when it happens or when Roe vs. Wade is finally overturned or when a lot of other unfinished business occurs. I do hope to observe those good results or Jesus's final victory at Armageddon, whichever comes first, from a perch in heaven if I make it there. Maybe I will get to meet you in person when you arrive. I hope so because your health and mine make that unlikely in this life.

If bashing Trump is counterproductive, so is the bashing of Cruz and his supporters. You want all those votes to go to a legitimate nominee. So do I and so do many combatants here who nonetheless insist on poisoning the well. The actual nominee has a bigger stake in the outcome than do those who supported other candidates. We all suffer under the Medusa if she is elected. I won't co-operate with her election positively or negatively. I DO want Trump to clean up his act in his interest, and more importantly in the country's interest. That is not unreasonable.

I don't believe you intend to run FReepers off simply for disagreeing with you or for not agreeing with Trump. Our disagreements with Trump do not make us one bit less patriotic or conservative or ready for a death struggle against Her Royal Thighness. Before arriving here many years ago, I was thrown off Lucianne.com and I have never looked back. I have never had that vibe here and you run a far better site.

As always, may God bless you and yours and assist your battle against diabetes and other ailments. Please continue to keep my health in your prayers as I keep yours in mine.

84 posted on 04/23/2016 9:02:25 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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