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To: Stat Man

If it walks like a duck... One need only look at who is running, funding and helping Cruz now, Its the Who’s who of the GOP Establishment.

And anybody who does not support Trump fall into at least 4 groups it seems.

1. Enemies of America including Foreign, US Globalists/Dems, Media, etc.
2. Gravy Train riders afraid of Trump stopping their ride.
3. Emotionally invested who place Cruz on a Pedestal.
4. Lo-information voters who get their information from the 6 corporation media (see 1 above) and do not know what is going on.

A decent explanation with supporting facts on what the Establishment is and where Cruz fits into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXcYCwaBKnQ&app=desktop

As far as using brains, Not a one of the Cruz supporters can tells us how Cruz can win the General when he could not win the swing states and will have a fractured base from a contested convention.

Now, When you have much smarter and better conservatives than you supporting Trump over Cruz, such as Jeff Sessions, Palin, Sheriff Joe, This sites Owner, etc; and the side you are on is allied with America’s enemies, it looks idiotic to be claiming we are the ones not using our brains.


1,172 posted on 04/21/2016 4:25:28 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: Mechanicos
"One need only look at who is running, funding and helping Cruz now, Its the Who’s who of the GOP Establishment."

That doesn't make Cruz one of them. He should refuse their help? Trump wouldn't. In fact, Trump just hired a GOP Establishment guy to help him in the delegate fight, and is hiring more establishment types daily, by the sound of it.

"And anybody who does not support Trump fall into at least 4 groups it seems."

Wow. That's a really offensive opinion. And I know lots of people who don't support Trump and don't fall into those 4 groups.

Here's a few groups that some of them fit into:

5. People who think that an immature jerk who reflexively tries to destroy the reputation and career of even people who mostly agree with him, should never be given power.

6. People who think that a man whose political positions were starkly different until recently can't be trusted.

7. People who think that a man who has shown incredible naivete about world affairs ("Bush lied", we should deal with the Palestinians, etc.) should not be Commander in Chief.

8. People who think a man who achieved real estate success in large part by currying favor and by intimidation and corrupt dealing would ADD to the problem in Washington, not subtract from it.

"Not a one of the Cruz supporters can tells us how Cruz can win the General"

This particular Cruz supporter believes Trump has already destroyed Cruz's chance of winning the General. That "Lyin' Cruz" lie was very effective. But I believe Trump's repulsive invective has also guaranteed that HE cannot win the General. Trump has already guaranteed a Republican loss in November by dividing the party with hateful rhetoric.

"When you have much smarter and better conservatives than you supporting Trump over Cruz, such as Jeff Sessions, Palin, Sheriff Joe, This sites Owner"

I've never seen any evidence that any of the people you mention are smarter than me. And of course, you define smarter and better conservatives as those who support Trump.

I could easily post a list of people whom I could claim are smarter and better conservatives than you, but here's another difference between me and most Trump supporters on this site: I don't follow the Trump doctrine of escalating personal attacks.

1,180 posted on 04/21/2016 5:12:19 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: Mechanicos
"and will have a fractured base from a contested convention."

Let me also add, that a fractured base from a contested convention is easier to repair than a fractured base from hateful rhetoric heaped onto supporters of one candidate by supporters of another candidate. Both Cruz and Trump supporters are extremely guilty of this, but Trump is the CANDIDATE who bears the blame by setting the example and legitimizing it.

Trump used "The other guy started it" as a way to justify his own bad behavior. That wasn't always a true statement, but even if it was, Trump admits he hits back harder. And what Trump does is often completely out of proportion to what was done to him. It's comparable to using a nuclear attack in response to a poke in the side.

I don't agree with a lot of Trump's "policies", but even if I agreed with him 100% I could never support a person like him, and would only ever vote for him if I was in a situation where my vote for him could help prevent an equally despicable person with even worse policies from winning.

Since I live in California, I can take pleasure in voting against Trump in the primary where my vote could actually matter for the first time in my lifetime, and I can take pleasure in not voting for Trump in the General, where my vote doesn't matter because the Democratic nominee will win the state by millions of votes.

Ironically, going into the campaign, I was a Trump fan and he was my first choice. It was observing his poor behavior and hearing his poor answers to substantive questions that has made me firmly opposed to him.

1,186 posted on 04/21/2016 5:29:04 AM PDT by Stat Man
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