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To: shortstop

This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Trump followers are just like the people of Israel in 1st Samuel 8. Israel wanted a king and so do the King Trumpy Worshipers...(and for all the same reasons) Doesn’t matter that King Trumpy doesn’t know God. Israel didn’t care if Saul was a God fearing man or not. They just wanted a King to worship instead of God.


10 posted on 04/18/2016 6:39:36 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: kjam22
No, I don't want a king.

And I certainly do not want a preacher.

Stop with the hysterics.

11 posted on 04/18/2016 6:41:33 AM PDT by TontoKowalski (You can call me "Dick.")
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To: kjam22; P-Marlowe

Not to be terribly difficult, but the eye-for-eye (EFE) bible quote is generally misused by everyone. I’m even convinced that Jesus was addressing that same misunderstanding.

EFE is about civil punishment if one checks the old testament. It refers to a punishment being commensurate with a crime. You don’t take a life for a tooth. Justice requires taking no more than a tooth for a tooth.

So, Jesus was addressing people misusing a legal prescription and saying it meant they could take revenge for harm they perceived having happened to themselves. Jesus is saying that in personal relationships that forgiveness is better than vengeance.

He is not talking about international relations or about criminal law. In THOSE areas the wisdom of EFE still applies. A punishment/retaliation should be in proportion to the crime. We still practice this in our law and it is reflected in our Constitution that forbids cruel and unusual punishment. It is preserved in just law theory that calls for proportionality of response.

That’s not to say Trump understands all this, but he might. I have no way of knowing.


42 posted on 04/18/2016 7:41:17 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: kjam22

You are delusional and so blinded by bias, that you are incapable of seeing reality.


83 posted on 04/18/2016 9:05:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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