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This is what I've seen clinically with heavy pot smokers. First, it affects their entire personality. They tend to adopt the 'punk' anti-establisment emo way of relating.

Second, yes, in susceptible individuals, it can produce psychosis, have seen lots of that. The 60's pot is a thing of the past. Dosage concentration is much higher now plus there's the whole new problem of synthetic pot.

Third, I don't care what anyone says, it certainly is the 'gateway' drug and people are always curious to 'try something else'.

Fourth, the biggest personality change is how it affects Motivation. That's both clinically and by user reports. "Man, I just just don't feel like doing anything. I can't start and finish things."

Fifth, Of course, all of the above affects job performance, lateness, concentration, motivation at work and overall performance. Then they lose the job and things spiral downward, interpersonal, finances, marriages, kids, etc.

The overall socioeconomic cost of pot. Family, society, medical costs and accidents, industrial and at home.

I think states that are considering legalizing pot need to take a good long hard look at the experiences in Colorado and Washington. Ask any cop in Washington and Colorado. Accidents are up as are other drug offenses. I heard 50% of drivers are either high on alcohol or would test positive for pot. Drive defensively!

22 posted on 04/15/2016 10:21:30 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I could spot a pot smoker at work within an hour or two. Mostly for the reasons you laid out. If I ever wanted an update on any conspiracy theory they were my source.


28 posted on 04/15/2016 10:26:29 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Art in Idaho

I think states that are considering legalizing pot need to take a good long hard look at the experiences in Colorado and Washington. Ask any cop in Washington and Colorado. Accidents are up as are other drug offenses. I heard 50% of drivers are either high on alcohol or would test positive for pot. Drive defensively!


I live in SW Oregon and since pot was legaalized many things have become worse. Tons of car accidents, many stolen cars, driver runs and abandons car. Crime in general up, even the local hippies are sick of the influx of newcomer weirdos and shady characters buying up property so they grow tons of dope. This is just the beginning. And the idea that “once pot is legal people won’t be doing other drugs” is pure bulls***. There’s just as much meth and heroin as ever, in fact it looks to me as though it’s more of a problem. I agree with everything you said from reading, personal experience with people I have known, and my own doper experience albeit many years ago when the potency was tiny fraction of what it is now.


61 posted on 04/15/2016 1:42:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Art in Idaho

-—The 60’s pot is a thing of the past. Dosage concentration is much higher
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I smoked pot some in the 60’s. Not much, but I did a few times. Got mellow, but I preferred beer.

A dozen or so years ago a friend of mine from the army came up to see me from Louisiana. He brought some pot to smoke. Well, why not, when you are old you like to do things you did when you were young.

Holy smack cakes batman. I had a couple hits of his brass little tiny pipe (that only held two hits) and 3 minutes later I thought I was going to die.

This was NOT the pot I smoked as a kid.

He laughed, and explained it was synthetic pot.

I never was so out of my gourd (and I have been falling down drunk more times than I care to admit) as I was at that point. I swear I was praying to God to end this buzz ASAP. I wanted it to go away. and NOW.

You are abso-F*in-lutely correct.

What they make now is NOT your father’s pot.

I was so mad at him, and I haven’t invited him back since (not just for that reason, but that was one of the main reasons). It was so bad, I took it personally.


64 posted on 04/15/2016 1:47:28 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Canadian... denying Americans the right to vote...but he's a principled constiutional conservative)
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To: Art in Idaho
The rs2494732 locus is the site of two SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms) in the AKT1 gene (encoding a serine/threonine-protein kinase) which influences the risk of developing a psychotic disorder in regular cannabis users. C/C carriers have a sevenfold increase in the odds of psychosis compared to T/T carriers when they use cannabis on a daily basis.

Some SNP genotyping companies have added the rs2494732 locus to their test chips so that customers can find out if they have an increased risk of developing cannabis psychosis and many other genetic disorders by sending just one small sample of saliva for testing:

http://isogg.org/wiki/List_of_personal_genomics_companies

These tests will help genetically vulnerable individuals by encouraging them to avoid experimenting with cannabis.

Keep in mind that cannabis will always be a 'gateway' drug if it's illegal because the criminals who sell it also peddle other illegal drugs.

95 posted on 04/17/2016 6:19:27 PM PDT by Go_Trump_2016
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To: Art in Idaho

Been using it for over a year to help deal with anti-depressant withdrawal & anxiety. Dramatic improvement in my quality of life & by extension, my wife’s as I had been suffering with severe depression/anxiety since the 1990’s. In the last 14 months I’ve brought my prescribed ativan use down from 4mg a day to 1mg. In a couple of months I hope to done with ativan completely.

I’m also more productive in my work since I began using cannabis. I can do daily tasks now that I could not do previously without being smacked into bed for my troubles.

Cannabis is like anything else. Too much is bad for you. I use it at the end of the day at home only in very small amounts. Decriminalize it & let the states regulate it like they do with alcohol & tobacco. Peace :)


102 posted on 04/21/2016 10:43:03 AM PDT by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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