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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Not really.

You don’t know that vote fraud has taken place until the day of the voting at a minimum. Sometimes afterwards when certain of facts are either thought about or brought to light.

It is okay at times to claim, as you have, that it should have been known. Perhaps it should have. I’m not a Coloradan, so the normal process isn’t known to me. I’d have a really good feel for it in Ohio.

It would be instructive to see how the last 3 or 4 Colorado republican primaries have been conducted.

If this one was substantially different, and if that change had been enacted by a small group of people in leadership positions, then I think it is fair to charge them with voter disenfranchisement.


27 posted on 04/15/2016 6:40:23 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins
You don’t know that vote fraud has taken place until the day of the voting at a minimum.

If you're talking vote fraud, you're right. But that isn't the core of the complaint. The core of the complaint was that the delegate selection system itself, as written, was bad. And as you'll see below, that exact same system had been in effect since 2002.

The real problem is straightforward, has been reported in multiple places, and verified by people who actually attended: 1) not enough Trump supporters showed up at the March 1 caucuses, and 2) the Trump campaign was not sufficiently well organized to present those supporters who did show up with the names of preferred delegates. That's why they lost.

It would be instructive to see how the last 3 or 4 Colorado republican primaries have been conducted.

Good point. Here you go:

The caucus process this year is the same used in prior elections, where party members nominate delegates at the precinct level to higher levels, ultimately culminating in votes for national delegates at the congressional district and state conventions largely based on presidential preference.

http://www.denverpost.com/election/ci_29752109/upset-colorado-donald-trump-campaign-looks-swipe-delegates

According to that article, and you can verify it elsewhere, the Colorado caucus system has been in place since 2002.

The only change was that a non-binding (i.e., doesn't affect delegate selection) straw poll taken at prior caucuses was eliminated after the RNC changed its rules to say that if you held such a vote, it had to be binding. So, in August, Colorado eliminated their non-binding straw poll so that delegates would continue to be selected the exact same way they'd been selected for the past 14 years. And in terms of the non-binding straw poll being eliminated, none of the other caucus states have one either.

37 posted on 04/15/2016 7:10:37 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: xzins

I have Colorado relatives. The ONLY difference is the NON-BINDING straw poll. Colorado had a primary for a very short period of time.

Concensus among my relatives is that this is all the fault of the liberals who moved to Boulder and drink $10 coffee, get a mani/pedi every week and believe everything they read on the internet.


45 posted on 04/15/2016 7:49:37 AM PDT by Roses0508
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