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To: Seaplaner

[[If someone had dire warnings based on vague modeling, would it not be prudent to invite opposing views, and work to learn just why you might be in error? ]]

Not when you have a muilti-Trillion dollar scam to advance- no- Facts be damned

What I want to know- is- 1: do their models figure in the FACT that man’s CO2 amounts to just 0.00136% of our atmosphere, (I want to see the actual impact that 0.00136% of our atmosphere would have and how much actual escaping heat it captures and holds in the atmosphere in order to cause global climate change- I’m betting 0.00136% of our atmosphere is not capable of holding hardly any heat) and

2: How do they explain that climates always change/get wrmer first- then 800 years later or more, CO2 rises IF CO2 is the driver/cause of climate change? and finally

3: Since it’s claimed that CO2 causes the earth to warm, why was there no warming for 20 years despite man producing more CO2?


37 posted on 04/14/2016 4:23:30 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
Bob, you ask some excellent (and timely) questions. Let's look at each.

1. I won't restate it, but it's a fair point that many different values for atmospheric CO2 exist. The ones that you found are likely in error.

Most measurements put the atmospheric concentration of CO2 at 0.039%. This is the same as 0.00039 or 3.9 ten thousandths. (Not much, especially compared w oxygen and nitrogen). It's also the same as 390 ppm.

In the earth's long history, the CO2 concentration has been manifold this (and life persevered, somehow.)

2. How do they explain that climates always change/get wrmer first- then 800 years later or more, CO2 rises IF CO2 is the driver/cause of climate change?

This is one of the best questions that an inquiring mind might ask! Consider that the oceans are sinks for much of the global co2 burden; and, also that cold water stores more dissolved co2 than does warm water. If the earth went through a warming phase (think solar radiation here) then the oceans would slowly warm, but this ocean temp change would not be immediate. If the cooler ocean was at co2 capacity, then as solar radiation warmed it, co2 would be released to the air because the warmer water could no longer hold it. Yes, as you suggest, the increase in atmospheric CO2 would thus lag the increase in atmospheric temp.

3. Since it’s claimed that CO2 causes the earth to warm, why was there no warming for 20 years despite man producing more CO2?

Excellent q! Actually, how do we even know the relative contribution of man made [sic] carbon? Lots of natural sources such as volcanoes, livestock, termites, on and on.

In short, there is no legitimate way to ascribe cause and effect.

Great points, all.

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60 posted on 04/14/2016 5:07:42 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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