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GOP Elites' Delusional Plan for Cleveland
World Net Daily ^ | 4/10/15 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/11/2016 8:18:27 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

After winning only six delegates in Wisconsin, and with Ted Cruz poaching delegates in states he has won, like Louisiana, Donald Trump either wins on the first ballot at Cleveland, or Trump does not win. Yet, as that huge, roaring reception he received in his first post-Wisconsin appearance in Bethpage, New York, testifies, the Donald remains not only the front-runner, but the most exciting figure in the race.

Moreover, after the New York, New England, mid-Atlantic and California primaries, Trump should be within striking distance of the 1,237 delegates needed for the nomination.

He will then have to persuade uncommitted delegates to back him, and perhaps do a deal with one of the defeated candidates, Marco Rubio or John Kasich, to win the remaining few needed to go over the top.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/gop-elites-delusional-plan-for-cleveland/#krHCKFu16UyObfXZ.99

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; buchanan; cruz; gope; rnc; trump
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To: 11th Commandment
Pat is talking about the optics of what Cruz is doing.

Maybe what Rafael is doing is "within the rules," but the average primary voter neither understands nor cares about delegates or their appropriation. All they care about is that their vote is being cancelled out by back-room, machine politics.

21 posted on 04/11/2016 9:44:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Rafael Cruz: Canadian-born, Cuban ancestry, ineligible for POTUS)
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To: ek_hornbeck
The RNC and the rest of the GOP establishment have no intention of letting Cruz get the nomination in a brokered convention any more than they will allow a brokered convention to go to Trump

Why doesn't Cruz realize this? Or has he been told to stay in and be rewarded?

22 posted on 04/11/2016 10:16:40 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: only1percent
Trump has 743 delegates, and Cruz has 545. Together they already have 1,288. That's 55 more than the 1,237 required for the nomination.

They should join forces now. They can credibly say they are doing so to ensure that the voice of the people is heard. They can back that up by saying that the remaining primaries are still relevant because they will pledge one of the following:

Whether they choose any of these options, or formulate their own, the time has come for them to pledge to ensure that one of them gets the nomination, and to devise a way to make the remaining primaries still relevant.

In any case, they need to find a way to definitively stick it to the GOPe.

23 posted on 04/11/2016 10:20:52 AM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: 11th Commandment

The bottom line is that Trump generally wins when voters decide. Cruz always wins when voters are removed and his fellow GOP establishment insider hacks decide.


24 posted on 04/11/2016 10:36:13 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20
The bottom line is that Trump generally wins when voters decide. Cruz always wins when voters are removed and his fellow GOP establishment insider hacks decide.

First- Delegates that Trump earned via votes have not been replace with Cruz delegate. They maybe Cruz people but they must vote for Trump until State Law, not the GOP, unbinds them.

Second- Cruz people are showing up to local and state conventions while Trump teams are not. A Freeper reported today that in NC at a meeting he attended, that there were not enough Trump people to fill the earned delegates!!!! He is a Cruz person that won a Trump delegate spot and pledge to vote for Trump.

Third, Trump is winning (generally) with a plurality. He, his team and is hacks are arguing that a plurality wins and he should be given the nomination. How does that work? Is Trump arguing for a rule change that a plurality wins- I thought he was against rule changes. Does he proposed persuading delegates on a second or third or fourth ballot? If so, how is this not stealing others peoples delegates, something he supposedly abhors?

All elections have fail safes for plurality decisions. Winning delegates is even a process contemplated by the US Constitution for presidential elections. Demanding that a plurality is a majority is the text book definition of fascism.

25 posted on 04/11/2016 11:06:28 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: 11th Commandment

Cruz’s “people” include Bush loving, GOP establishment hacks like him and his wife. You don’t stay a high level, GOP establishment insider, Bush style globalist hack for 20 years as Cruz and his wife have done without getting some love from fellow GOPe snakes.


26 posted on 04/11/2016 11:27:50 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: dragonblustar
Why doesn't Cruz realize this? Or has he been told to stay in and be rewarded?

I wonder about this too. If Cruz really thinks he stands a chance of being nominated in an open convention run by the RNC, he's a deluded fool. If he knows as well as the rest of us that he won't be nominated but is staying in the race anyway just to derail Trump, that makes him either a petty, spiteful little man, or, worse still, a puppet of the GOP establishment.

I'm not a mind-reader and have no idea which of these three (or some combination) is at work, but none of them speak very well of Cruz. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's just living in a fantasy land where he stands a chance of being nominated.

27 posted on 04/11/2016 12:03:44 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
News Flash:!
The Republican Party, the Democrat Party, the Right to Life Party, the Constitution Party Ross Perot’s Reform Party- any political party you can name - is a private entity. It is not run by the government, and properly it exercises its right to freedom of association to maintain its policy coherence.

On that legitimate basis, open primaries should be anathema. The difficulty we are in lies in the fact that both parties have taken their “establishment” status for granted and have assumed that they could limit their competition without leaving themselves open to

  1. competion from another party, or - shockingly -

  2. a powerful hostile takeover attempt.
The Republican Party finds itself faced with two hostile takeover attacks, first by Cruz and then, out of the blue, by Trump. And it faces the danger of the latter takeover attempt morphing into a Perot-style significant third party.

Meanwhile the Democrats’ endemic corruption has produced a situation where its establishment is determined to nominate someone they know is trustworthy only in the sense that one mafia member can trust another. The rank and file of the party doesn’t trust her, and seems to prefer someone who is officially other than a Democrat in the Senate. Not that that is so much worse than McCain bruiting the possibility of nominating Joe Lieberman (D, Conn.) for VP . . .


28 posted on 04/11/2016 3:14:17 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: scouter

Trump has 743 delegates, and Cruz has 545. Together they already have 1,288. That’s 55 more than the 1,237 required for the nomination.
They should join forces now. They can credibly say they are doing so to ensure that the voice of the people is heard.


Good in theory,..but if they join forces, the RNC would join the dems in a massive eligibility lawsuit that would bring down Cruz, and Trump with him..guaranteed.


29 posted on 04/11/2016 3:33:52 PM PDT by AFret.
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