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To: Nero Germanicus

You miss the point entirely. Citizen YES. NBC NO.

If you are born outside the U.S. to citizens or citizen, you must acquire a CRBA which is a form of naturalization and therefore not NBC.

According to the State Department:

7 FAM 1111 INTRODUCTION
(CT:CON-538; 10-24-2014)

a. U.S. citizenship may be acquired either at birth or through naturalization subsequent to birth. U.S. laws governing the acquisition of citizenship at birth embody two legal principles:

(1) Jus soli (the law of the soil) - a rule of common law under which the place of a persons birth determines citizenship. In addition to common law, this principle is embodied in the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the various U.S. citizenship and nationality statutes.

(2) Jus sanguinis (the law of the bloodline) - a concept of Roman or civil law under which a persons citizenship is determined by the citizenship of one or both parents. This rule, frequently called citizenship by descent or derivative citizenship, is not embodied in the U.S. Constitution, but such citizenship is granted through statute. As U.S. laws have changed, the requirements for conferring and retaining derivative citizenship have also changed.

https://fam.state.gov/searchapps/viewer?format=html&query=7%20fam&links=7,FAM&url=/FAM/07FAM/07FAM1110.html#M1111

This clears it up even better:

If you were born in the United States, you do not need to apply to USCIS for any evidence of citizenship. Your birth certificate issued where you were born is proof of your citizenship.

If you were born outside the United States, but one or both of your parents were U.S. citizens when you were born, you may still be a U.S. citizen. This is called citizenship through derivation. There are usually additional specific requirements, and sometimes citizenship can be through a combination of a parent and grandparent. https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/A4en.pdf

Citizenship by statute cannot be considered NBC.

I don’t know what law you are speaking of that has been repealed but Bellei states: “Although those Americans who acquire their citizenship under statutes conferring citizenship on the foreign-born children of citizens are not popularly thought of as naturalized citizens, the use of the word “naturalize” in this way has a considerable constitutional history. Congress is empowered by the Constitution to “establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” Art. I, § 8. Anyone acquiring citizenship solely under the exercise of this power is, Constitutionally speaking, a naturalized citizen.”

How can that statement be repealed?


366 posted on 04/09/2016 12:02:49 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist; Cboldt; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Oh, it just keeps getting better.

It now appears Ted’s wife, is also...HIS COUSIN!


367 posted on 04/09/2016 12:33:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Courts and state election boards have ruled that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen. Your opinion gives you the right to exclude him from your personal choice of candidates.
There has never been a court ruling at any level of the judiciary that a person who qualifies as a Citizen of the United States At Birth doesn’t also qualify as a natural born citizen. If someone can produce a Certificate of Naturalization for Senator Cruz, then we’d have something interesting to discuss.
No action of the judicial or the legislative branch has invalidated his candidacy and eligibility.
That’s the bottom line unless or until there is a ruling to the contrary.


385 posted on 04/09/2016 1:53:06 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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